• sharkfinsoup@lemmy.ml
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    16 hours ago

    Since no one is answering seriously, I will try. There is a distinct difference in anarchist philosophy between property and possession which I will try to explain with housing.

    Property is something that is used to oppress people. Which is why anarchist philosophy aims to abolish all property. In this case, housing that is being used for Airbnbs takes a house from someone that could use it to create a home for themselves and their family and instead uses that land and building to make a profit .

    Possession on the other hand would be someone using that land and building to make a home for themselves and their family, not to make a profit but to survive and exist.

    Owning one home for yourself is not a property but a possession but owning multiple homes that you use to make a profit is property. So the anarchist solution to this is to give that Airbnb to someone who could make it into a permanent home, not a short term rental.

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      13 hours ago

      And the corporations have spent so much time and money fighting the idea that now anarchists are now associated with terrorists amongst boomers at least.

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        4 hours ago

        To be fair, that’s not just due to corporations but also due to the mismatch in meaning between anarchist as a political movement and anarchist as a word from the dictionary. The movement covers only a small portion of what the word covers. Communicating more clearly as a movement can avoid the confusion

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            10 minutes ago

            Same difference in day to day use.

            The important discussion is often lost due to confusing semantics. Extend it to languages other than English and some don’t even have two separate words. Even in English this problem arises with anarchist (person part of the movement or person who does whatever the fuck they want).

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      15 hours ago

      This reminds me of the campsite rule but applied globally: “Leave the world a better place than you found it.”

      If your ethos is to own and manage as many housing units as possible, you’re not going to improve them since, paradoxically, leaving the world a better place doesn’t help grow your enterprise. On the other hand, if every housing unit is managed exclusively and only by a single local person who doesn’t split their attention, then that person has a personal incentive to improve their home since they suffer the direct consequences of neglecting their possessions.

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        15 hours ago

        Absolutely! And by improving your own home, you are directly improving the community and environment for those around you while others do the same for you.

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      11 hours ago

      If property doesn’t exist, you can’t go on vacation though.

      When you leave your house, someone else can just come in and take it for himself.

      You couldn’t even go for a walk. The moment you leave the house you stop “possessing” it.

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        10 hours ago

        If property doesn’t exist, you can’t go on vacation though.

        We’re getting dangerously close to “under Communism, you will share a toothbrush”

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        11 hours ago

        It is absolutely possible to go on vacation without oppressing or exploiting others. It happens all the time. You can avoid Airbnbs and stay in a hotel, camp, sleep in a car, or just stay home.

        I really don’t understand how you came to the conclusion that you cease possession of something the moment you end physical contact with it. You’re gonna have to walk me through that one if you want to actually argue that point.

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          If there’s no state to protect your possession, you are the one responsible for protecting it. The moment you lose physical contact, you cannot protect it. Unless you put traps all over your house to deter an invader.

          I don’t see how in a stateless society you could go on vacation without the fear of your home being “stolen” when you return.