I don’t want to burn it down. Burning it down will paint the streets in blood,and it won’t be restricted to those you hate.
Good because there’s lots of capitalists working in the background that I’m not personally aware of. And I’m 1000% willing to shoot “friends” and “family” in the fucking face if they put their bodies on the line for the capitalist class. And frankly I’m cool if I end up lined up against the wall and shot in the fucking face by my hypothetical former comrades because at least I could go to my grave in the comfort that the people finally stood up for themselves.
All this is based on that nobody has some right to be rich and capitalism, if controlled well, is the best way to generate wealth in general.
Wow never heard this one before, sure it’s gonna be spicy and interesting /s
Nobody is allowed to have an average yearly net worth of more than X (say, 10 million, just as an example)
Bad solution. The problem is inequality in power itself, not the number to which we assign buying power.
Companies cannot be larger than X in net worth , and Y employees, say 1 billion dollar and 1000 employees, as exampls.
Companies should own nothing and have no rights. Corporate personhood is stupid. Corporations should not exist at all. Privately owned companies should not exist. And while I am inclined to support small organizations over large ones, I do believe that big organizations can exist, i.e. I don’t think that the number of people in a group is necessarily a good indicator of a group’s power. (For example, compare the size of the Democratic Party (or Republicans) to their power.)
You want to own a company? That’s fine
No it’s not lol. The people who do the work should control the company.
The government gets a huge amount of money through taxes that now can be spent on a huge social system. Free healthcare, free housing, free public transportation, free food even or even universal basic income.
Yeah I don’t trust the State to do anything other than enforce the will of the ultra-rich upon the working class. Obviously I’d rather the government do these things than they not happen at all, but I’m not gonna pretend like we scored anything other than temporary breadcrumbs whenever we get concessions from the government in favor of social justice.
Everything can stay as it is, just those three rules should terraform the earh
Please I beg you: dream bigger. Free healthcare, free housing, free public transportation, free food, universal basic income…these things have already been tried in other countries. It’s not even the bare minimum. It’s not even close.
Burning capitalism to the ground is the bare fucking minimum. I’m not supporting your politician until they’re cool with burning the system to the fucking ground. Besides burning the system to the ground, your politician had better be helping the community build prefigurative alternatives to the State and capitalism.
I’m 100% willing to shoot my “friends” and “family” in the face
Thanks for the example! So here we see a specific example of a person that should never be allowed anywhere near power, lest he will burn the world just so he can rule the ashes.
People like you, with your attitude, made the Balkan wars the horrors that it was.
I don’t want bloodshed, and I fucking guarantee you that if you start drawing blood, by the time that it’s finished, you will have lost so much that even a victory will be pyhrric at best.
That’s why, just start taxing, and hard.nthst will eliminate all the power without the need for blood, it will make us all equal while keeping a system in place that can generate wealth the best way
Actually I said 1000% not 100%, and I stand by every 0. Also, you forgot the second clause:
And I’m 1000% willing to shoot “friends” and “family” in the fucking face if they put theirbodies on the linefor the capitalist class.
If a family member puts their body on the line in defense of someone who is trying to destroy you and everyone (else) you love, then wouldn’t you be willing to shoot them too? If you’re defending yourself against a person and your friend/family member helps your attacker, then they’re attacking you too and you have a right to defend yourself regardless of your prior relation to them. And yes, we are constantly defending ourselves against capitalism every single day of our lives.
So here we see a specific example of a person that should never be allowed anywhere near power
Based and 🏴-pilled, I don’t want to be anywhere near power. Please shoot me if I ever end up in a position of authoritarian power.
lest he will burn the world just so he can rule the ashes.
Not the world, just capitalism, the State, racism, cisheteropatriarchy, and all forms of hierarchy and domination. The world is so much more than how we dominate each other. Obviously I don’t want to literally burn down every single building or structure…but we definitely should be burning down the prisons, jails, courthouses, Wall St., i.e. those buildings which are designed to dominate others.
And again, I don’t want to rule literally anything. I want to be an equal partner in the project of human liberation. But I’m not afraid to fight for our freedom, even if violence is necessary. Yours too.
I don’t want bloodshed, and I fucking guarantee you that if you start drawing blood, by the time that it’s finished, you will have lost so much that even a victory will be pyhrric at best.
I don’t want bloodshed either. Not that the capitalists deserve such grace, but I would be literally thrilled to sit down with all the capitalists and all my fellow working class comrades and peacefully hash out the liberation of humanity as equals over dinner. But:
That’s not happening. They’re not gonna sit down and let us talk them out of power. They’re monsters! That’s how they got into that position!
Even if they did agree to sit down with us, they have already started the bloodshed. They’re still doing the bloodshed. Every passing moment these capitalist fucks kill more and more innocent people and destroy the futures of everyone else. So such a hypothetical “peaceful hashing out” would ultimately reinforce capitalists and their will because it still would not be a real debate amongst parties with equal power.
Point being: we have totakeback the world from them. It’s not gonna be voluntary for them. It’s not gonna be easy. It’s not gonna be fun. It’s not gonna be legal. It’s not gonna conform to liberal ideals. It does NOT necessarily have to be violent, but let’s be real, the capitalists will probably force us to defend ourselves from them, and the alternative is theworse violenceof the status quowhich is invisible to people privileged enough to be shielded from it.
That’s why, just start taxing, and hard.nthst will eliminate all the power without the need for blood, it will make us all equal while keeping a system in place that can generate wealth the best way
In addition to cash, the State has the monopoly on violence, control over the economy, de-facto control over the media, domestic police and all branches of the military, control over who gets to starve, control over who gets to get medical care, etc., etc. Increasing taxes are neither necessary nor sufficient for solving the problems caused by every other form of domination (although I obviously don’t oppose taxing the rich because I don’t oppose taking anything from the rich at all).
I.e., the capitalists control access to the resources of the world and the means to produce goods. The problem is private ownership of these resources and means of production.
All of this to say: we don’t need any more milquetoast liberalism. We don’t need people who ask for nothing and then get even less. Please at least ask for something. If you really can’t fuck with revolution, if you’re absolutely dead set on being a reformist, then at least ask for something cool.
Lastly, it is my view that while we need a diversity of tactics, we currently have too many “peaceful doves” who ask for nothing. Please understand that “peaceful doves” only ever work because they’re the alternative to the “whoop-ass”, i.e. they talk to people like you because they’re scared of people like my comrades. All of this is to say: the “peaceful doves” and violent people need to collaborate. I.e., if you’re going to be a reformist, then please ask for radical reforms in cahoots with the revolutionaries!
Good because there’s lots of capitalists working in the background that I’m not personally aware of. And I’m 1000% willing to shoot “friends” and “family” in the fucking face if they put their bodies on the line for the capitalist class. And frankly I’m cool if I end up lined up against the wall and shot in the fucking face by my hypothetical former comrades because at least I could go to my grave in the comfort that the people finally stood up for themselves.
Wow never heard this one before, sure it’s gonna be spicy and interesting /s
Bad solution. The problem is inequality in power itself, not the number to which we assign buying power.
Companies should own nothing and have no rights. Corporate personhood is stupid. Corporations should not exist at all. Privately owned companies should not exist. And while I am inclined to support small organizations over large ones, I do believe that big organizations can exist, i.e. I don’t think that the number of people in a group is necessarily a good indicator of a group’s power. (For example, compare the size of the Democratic Party (or Republicans) to their power.)
No it’s not lol. The people who do the work should control the company.
Yeah I don’t trust the State to do anything other than enforce the will of the ultra-rich upon the working class. Obviously I’d rather the government do these things than they not happen at all, but I’m not gonna pretend like we scored anything other than temporary breadcrumbs whenever we get concessions from the government in favor of social justice.
Please I beg you: dream bigger. Free healthcare, free housing, free public transportation, free food, universal basic income…these things have already been tried in other countries. It’s not even the bare minimum. It’s not even close.
Burning capitalism to the ground is the bare fucking minimum. I’m not supporting your politician until they’re cool with burning the system to the fucking ground. Besides burning the system to the ground, your politician had better be helping the community build prefigurative alternatives to the State and capitalism.
Thanks for the example! So here we see a specific example of a person that should never be allowed anywhere near power, lest he will burn the world just so he can rule the ashes.
People like you, with your attitude, made the Balkan wars the horrors that it was.
I don’t want bloodshed, and I fucking guarantee you that if you start drawing blood, by the time that it’s finished, you will have lost so much that even a victory will be pyhrric at best.
That’s why, just start taxing, and hard.nthst will eliminate all the power without the need for blood, it will make us all equal while keeping a system in place that can generate wealth the best way
Actually I said 1000% not 100%, and I stand by every 0. Also, you forgot the second clause:
If a family member puts their body on the line in defense of someone who is trying to destroy you and everyone (else) you love, then wouldn’t you be willing to shoot them too? If you’re defending yourself against a person and your friend/family member helps your attacker, then they’re attacking you too and you have a right to defend yourself regardless of your prior relation to them. And yes, we are constantly defending ourselves against capitalism every single day of our lives.
Based and 🏴-pilled, I don’t want to be anywhere near power. Please shoot me if I ever end up in a position of authoritarian power.
Not the world, just capitalism, the State, racism, cisheteropatriarchy, and all forms of hierarchy and domination. The world is so much more than how we dominate each other. Obviously I don’t want to literally burn down every single building or structure…but we definitely should be burning down the prisons, jails, courthouses, Wall St., i.e. those buildings which are designed to dominate others.
And again, I don’t want to rule literally anything. I want to be an equal partner in the project of human liberation. But I’m not afraid to fight for our freedom, even if violence is necessary. Yours too.
I don’t want bloodshed either. Not that the capitalists deserve such grace, but I would be literally thrilled to sit down with all the capitalists and all my fellow working class comrades and peacefully hash out the liberation of humanity as equals over dinner. But:
Point being: we have to take back the world from them. It’s not gonna be voluntary for them. It’s not gonna be easy. It’s not gonna be fun. It’s not gonna be legal. It’s not gonna conform to liberal ideals. It does NOT necessarily have to be violent, but let’s be real, the capitalists will probably force us to defend ourselves from them, and the alternative is the worse violence of the status quo which is invisible to people privileged enough to be shielded from it.
In addition to cash, the State has the monopoly on violence, control over the economy, de-facto control over the media, domestic police and all branches of the military, control over who gets to starve, control over who gets to get medical care, etc., etc. Increasing taxes are neither necessary nor sufficient for solving the problems caused by every other form of domination (although I obviously don’t oppose taxing the rich because I don’t oppose taking anything from the rich at all).
I.e., the capitalists control access to the resources of the world and the means to produce goods. The problem is private ownership of these resources and means of production.
All of this to say: we don’t need any more milquetoast liberalism. We don’t need people who ask for nothing and then get even less. Please at least ask for something. If you really can’t fuck with revolution, if you’re absolutely dead set on being a reformist, then at least ask for something cool.
Lastly, it is my view that while we need a diversity of tactics, we currently have too many “peaceful doves” who ask for nothing. Please understand that “peaceful doves” only ever work because they’re the alternative to the “whoop-ass”, i.e. they talk to people like you because they’re scared of people like my comrades. All of this is to say: the “peaceful doves” and violent people need to collaborate. I.e., if you’re going to be a reformist, then please ask for radical reforms in cahoots with the revolutionaries!
Dream on, because you’ll be waiting to your last day on that shit.