I mean, that’s the case everywhere in the world and always has been. If you go out and live in the woods you’re banking on your ability to find food and shelter yourself or you die.
Not defending the current system, but like, saying you’re not free until someone pays for your ability to live off-grid seems… silly?
Might as well say, “they say you’re free, but if you decide to shoot yourself in the head you just die and there’s nothing you can do about it. #WakeUpSheeple”
I just don’t see what kind of system you’re arguing for I guess.
Fair enough, my wording was too simplistic. But I stand by what I said, and try to explain it better.
Generally in the US, you have no choice but to own a car. It’s significantly more difficult if you can’t except for a few outliers like NYC (public transport everywhere but much higher cost of living?).
It’s very difficult not to have a phone and internet, and be able to function in society, finding and keeping a job among other things.
It’s extremely difficult to be homeless or live in your car, not to mention very uncomfortable.
Health insurance premiums whether you need healthcare or not.
Most jobs are tied to a 40hr or more workweek. Some of which don’t pay enough necessitating second jobs. Overwork and exhaustion resulting in limited ability to gain skills to escape.
Energy industry: try living without oil, gas, electricity, etc. it’s impossible.
transportation
housing
energy related, electricity
phone, internet
healthcare
My argument, is that these are every day extreme necessities, and they account for the vast majority of our expenses. We don’t have a choice to do without any single one of these (without severe hardship or external support). This is how we’re pseudo-enslaved. All of these things represent billions upon trillions of dollars of profit that mostly go to the elite. All of these above, should be completely socialized/nationalized and have the profit motive removed (as necessities).
Free market capitalism is fine for things like PS5s, BMWs, yachts, mansions, breast implants, and gold plated iPhones. People can work to get luxuries. But having basic necessities met (simple smart phone, clean housing, basic transportation, etc.) should be part of a civilized society. It would mean no more billionaires.
This doesn’t mean people should be able to sit around, do nothing, and get free stuff. Everyone should contribute. Some of the most important jobs like teaching kids, construction, nurses, etc. get shit pay, while billionaires play stock market games.
Honestly I think the concept is simple. There’s money to do all this. It’s just currently going to the wrong people.
For the first few hundred years of the western hemisphere, people literally went into the woods with some provisions and tools, and many of them survived and flourished. Sure plenty died but look at the result. The point is that now you can’t do that because someone owns all the land. Even the millions of hectares laying unused - and I don’t just mean parks and monuments. There are huge, enormous swaths of land laying unused and held by private owners, corporations, and trusts, because at one point hundreds of years ago, someone climbed a hill, looked at landmarks and decreed, “this land is mine” and went to the closest town to stake their claim. Even if there was land, you still need to buy said tools and provisions, and it’ll cost you now.
I mean, that’s the case everywhere in the world and always has been. If you go out and live in the woods you’re banking on your ability to find food and shelter yourself or you die.
Not defending the current system, but like, saying you’re not free until someone pays for your ability to live off-grid seems… silly?
Might as well say, “they say you’re free, but if you decide to shoot yourself in the head you just die and there’s nothing you can do about it. #WakeUpSheeple”
I just don’t see what kind of system you’re arguing for I guess.
Fair enough, my wording was too simplistic. But I stand by what I said, and try to explain it better.
Generally in the US, you have no choice but to own a car. It’s significantly more difficult if you can’t except for a few outliers like NYC (public transport everywhere but much higher cost of living?).
It’s very difficult not to have a phone and internet, and be able to function in society, finding and keeping a job among other things.
It’s extremely difficult to be homeless or live in your car, not to mention very uncomfortable.
Health insurance premiums whether you need healthcare or not.
Most jobs are tied to a 40hr or more workweek. Some of which don’t pay enough necessitating second jobs. Overwork and exhaustion resulting in limited ability to gain skills to escape.
Energy industry: try living without oil, gas, electricity, etc. it’s impossible.
My argument, is that these are every day extreme necessities, and they account for the vast majority of our expenses. We don’t have a choice to do without any single one of these (without severe hardship or external support). This is how we’re pseudo-enslaved. All of these things represent billions upon trillions of dollars of profit that mostly go to the elite. All of these above, should be completely socialized/nationalized and have the profit motive removed (as necessities).
Free market capitalism is fine for things like PS5s, BMWs, yachts, mansions, breast implants, and gold plated iPhones. People can work to get luxuries. But having basic necessities met (simple smart phone, clean housing, basic transportation, etc.) should be part of a civilized society. It would mean no more billionaires.
This doesn’t mean people should be able to sit around, do nothing, and get free stuff. Everyone should contribute. Some of the most important jobs like teaching kids, construction, nurses, etc. get shit pay, while billionaires play stock market games.
Honestly I think the concept is simple. There’s money to do all this. It’s just currently going to the wrong people.
For the first few hundred years of the western hemisphere, people literally went into the woods with some provisions and tools, and many of them survived and flourished. Sure plenty died but look at the result. The point is that now you can’t do that because someone owns all the land. Even the millions of hectares laying unused - and I don’t just mean parks and monuments. There are huge, enormous swaths of land laying unused and held by private owners, corporations, and trusts, because at one point hundreds of years ago, someone climbed a hill, looked at landmarks and decreed, “this land is mine” and went to the closest town to stake their claim. Even if there was land, you still need to buy said tools and provisions, and it’ll cost you now.