• finitebanjo@piefed.world
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    13 hours ago

    It’s a single party autocracy with a very bloody history involving the west. Even if being abducted, tortured, and buried in an unmarked grave is the exception to the rule, it’s still a hell of a lot more likely than a progressive nation.

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      13 hours ago

      That’s a bizarre claim to make when America has been abducting people, torturing them, and vanishing them, without due process for decades, and I am not aware of such a case happening in any of those 3 countries. Except in 2012, when China caught the CIA’s spy network and charged them with espionage.

      As far as the bloody history goes, the blood is only on the hands of the side that invaded and subjugated them. Also the people here in vietnam are way less bitter about the war, despite having a much better understanding of what happened than the average american.

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        13 hours ago

        Sounds like whataboutism. I don’t really recommend vising the USA. Maybe you should have higher standards than “very unlikely (citation needed) to be abducted and murdered by authoritarians”.

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          13 hours ago

          I just defaulted to USA because it’s where I and (I think) most lemmitors are from.

          In any case, it’s trivial not to get abducted and murdered, simply don’t commit espionage.

          It’s weird that you only single non-western countries out when most countries treat espionage pretty seriously.

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            12 hours ago

            You are not the one who will decide if you are a spy. Do not place your destiny in the hands of proven liars and murderers.

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              11 hours ago

              No justice system lets the accused judge their own guilt, but the US admitted those guys were spies.