I -already- said I am acutely aware of recent developments. We disagree. Russia is not capable, India is unstable, and China is likely to let Russia fail as they essentially already have been. World war is absolute suicide for the human race.
I am not saying to ban other social media, I am saying as a cornerstone of democracy, we need to be able to have forums with our government in official and secure ways, that we can track, and sue over free speech violations. We cannot do that with private companies including private servers. You can just get banned and silenced. Further, we should have streamlined ways of getting government notices, recalls, and contacting our officials. No upvotes or ads allowed.
If I trusted my government, I’d be more inclined to agree with you. I’ve been lied to and gaslit far too much. My government didn’t represent my interests or the interests of the American people even under Obama. Centralized power structures are literally the problem causing every single thing we are talking about, for the most part.
so we DON’T have power
Wouldn’t it be possible to organize a vote of no confidence outside of our election system to depose our government?
No, you don’t manage my feelings, and further, your edits messed with my other comment and made it reset. So I think I get to be annoyed that it cost me an extra 15min of my life trying to tell you stuff that you couldve googled yourself because you’re so geopolitically ignorant.
You edited your initial response to me after posting. I caught your comment before you finished.
Linking me documentaries and books instead of direct, primary sources does not respect my time.
Russia has been capable for a decade now and again, has been propped up by China including the use of NK.
Suicide for the human race? Duh. And that’s climate change. They want to reduce the carrying capacity of the earth because they cannot figure out other ways. Already huge catastrophic floods in China. Farming and food will take a hit soon.
Then don’t use it. Just like we have a post office, and UPS. But you need communications to be centralized somewhat lol, that’s how communcation works. You also wouldn’t say anything on there you wouldn’t say in a Town Hall, it would be your official profile. The power structure also wouldn’t be as centralized as regular social media- that’s why you can sue and demand things, based on constitution and bill of rights and other laws. That means you actually have power over it.
There’s no legal way for us to depose the government or even to suggest to depose the government. I would never organize to depose the government. I would never trust someone on social suggesting such a thing either. I have other plans for addressing this, and they are nunya.
Linking me documentaries instead of primary sources does not respect my time.
I never removed that. Repsect your time? How about respect your blatant ignorance? Complicated topics cannot be summarized in a Tweet or Lemmy post, they take time like books, long form media, or yes, documentaries and news interviews, gasp. Not everything is so simple, sorry kiddo. And the documentary interviews primary sources like Hillary Clinton and John McCain. The documentary IS a primary source. You’d know that if you’d just watch it. It’s free on Youtube and has been linked. How intellectually pathetic of you, as I suspected you’d be.
Russia has been capable for a decade now and again, has been propped up by China including the use of NK.
Disagree. I believe Russia will see a coup or revolution before a proper war. They have utterly failed against Ukraine, it’s unbelievable to me how much they have failed. I have been observing the invasion, now and again, since day 1 - and the buildup prior to that.
Suicide for the human race? Duh. And that’s climate change.
See my instance. I’m aware. It is my opinion and belief that the oligarchy here in America wants the whole world to perish while they wait it out in their self-sufficient bunkers.
Then don’t use it. Just like we have a post office, and UPS. But you need communications to be centralized somewhat lol, that’s how communcation works. You also wouldn’t say anything on there you wouldn’t say in a Town Hall, it would be your official profile. The power structure also wouldn’t be as centralized as regular social media- that’s why you can sue and demand things, based on constitution and bill of rights and other laws. That means you actually have ppwer over it.
I argue for decentralized, loosely standardized, democratic, socialist structures. The legal system is absolutely and completely busted. I really shouldn’t need to get into that. Hopefully you can agree that the Supreme Court is beyond saving. Your idea is a fantasy, but it’s a nice one if there was any state that truly represented its populace. I do value it though, and even if I call it a fantasy, I like it in theory.
There’s no legal way for us to depose the government or even to suggest to depose the government. I would never organize to depose the government.
Guess we just let Trump destroy the government and install a complete dictatorship in earnest…
I disagree, we do have power.
Complicated topics cannot be summarized in a Tweet or Lemmy post, they take time like books, long form media, or yes, documentaries and news interviews, gasp.
If people in debates are told to source their claims, there is a preference towards direct evidence, primary sources, and specific excerpts. I prefer direct evidence, specific excerpts, and related argumentation. If a primary source does not provide direct evidence openly, I’m not hunting for it at the drop of a hat or trusting it at face value unless it is convincing. This shouldn’t be difficult.
Regardless, I will expose myself to the documentary and book with an open mind when I have literal -hours- or -days- to digest it all, and you are absolutely free to disagree with my opinions and personal beliefs. I accept being called naive because I care about the human race and I want it broadly return to sanity - the consequences of a world war are absolutely unimaginable. Forecasting war doesn’t help anything, unless you are in the military preparing to respond if it does happen.
A major goal of nearly every Russian war is to kill off their own young men (in this war, esp indigenous people living near Mongolia are being sent to war to die). A lot of wars are like that - two leaders with populations that are getting agitated, send them to fight each other and take all their stuff and their women. Classic attack by the top to the bottom and gaslight them that it was for a good cause the whole time. Maybe Russia could have a coup or revolution, but maybe not. Hasn’t happened to Putin yet but we can dream.
oligarchy here in America wants the whole world to perish while they wait it out in their self-sufficient bunkers.
I think it’s the global wealthy, but same. The Titanic sub was a preview of the wealthy’s hubris when it comes to science.
I think our legal system as its bare bones isn’t bad. The way arguments are presented etc. It was formed via Greek philosophy, at the same time as ideas like democracy lol. They are intrinsically related and good faith arguments and logic are the cornerstone of progress and society and fact. There’s so many amazing, empowering, and incredible things about our legal system. A huge part of the fight for civil rights was literally fought in the courtroom. Please study the civil rights era to understand progressive movements with courts.
But there’s many many things that can be done to reform the issues in it incl the Supreme Court. I figure you would like it, because it is decentralized and one of the only ways an average citizen can get any kind of power in this country over their government. Pretty rad.
Yeah again my plans are not your business and not something I discuss online. Youre giving off Fed energy over there.
I can tell you’ve never been homeless or did anything with the homeless network. Ever hear of Slab City? The government is effective as a slave machine and will grind you up in it no problem. I am an abolitionist first, and imo the most important thing is to stay free as much as possible and to hold onto the power you have as much as possible. Being thoughtful during fascist takeover is wise. Take battles wisely.
The documentary is direct evidence, primary sources, and specific excerpts. Literally there’s even pictures. It’s so solid as evidence and as a case, they didn’t even get sued by Trump over it (avoiding discovery). Length does not determine validity. And it’s so weird of you to push back on it as a source just because you’re too big of a baby to learn what everyone else has been talking about for years - it came out in 2018.
If you want to do this democratically - then go to the protests and town halls and talk to people. Go ahead. I’m not stopping you, there are many movements like that already.
I concede, but I think some are more prepared than others.
I think our legal system as its bare bones isn’t bad.
Perhaps there are solid foundations present, but slow reform will not save us. We literally can’t afford to delay immediate action.
Yeah again my plans are not your business and not something I discuss online. Youre giving off Fed energy over there.
You were free to not engage, that was me being incredibly brave in light of recent developments. I don’t take great measures to hide my identity online and I don’t care to.
The documentary is direct evidence, primary sources, and specific excerpts. Literally there’s even pictures. It’s so solid as evidence and as a case, they didn’t even get sued by Trump over it (avoiding discovery).
Then why didn’t the US government under Biden take action? I’m serious. I immediately told you I’d check them out, I am aware of the allegations loosely being made by at least the book from other sources.
If you want to do this democratically - then go to the protests and town halls and talk to people. Go ahead. I’m not stopping you, there are many movements like that already.
We need country-scale action. I spend most of my days living with impaired health, bed-bound - I can do only so much by myself. I’m doing my best to improve my health when doctors aren’t trying to kill me. I have had extremely life-threatening encounters with the healthcare system.
I can tell you’ve never been homeless or did anything with the homeless network.
I have lived in a rural area, in poverty, without much dignity at all, and with chronic illness my entire life. I am gay, autistic, regularly discriminated against, I have experienced prolonged sexual and physical abuse with absolutely no support, and I am effectively a dissident in the state I live in. It’s only through incredible kindness that I am not homeless.
And I have volunteered to directly help the homeless in the past. I’m not the vanguard, I’m just giving small nudges here and there where I can and am able.
They tried but Barr and Mueller were limp dicks. It represents a MAJOR FAILURE of that admin along with the election interference.
I said that about homelessness because it is true anarchy, and maximum danger by the state, and no homeless person or formerly homeless would call the state ineffective or think it wouldn’t try to immediately enslave them when it notices them. Slab City is a homeless city in the desert, and they aren’t even safe there from police taking them. And yes online stories say no cops in the Slabs but that isn’t true, police go by routinely.
Helping the homeless isn’t the same in terms of the anarchist way of living and mindset towards the state, although it is kind.
Online communities are great for disabled people but yes can represent a danger these days.
I am not a doctor but if you ever want help with vitamins and your health issues, I can try to give you reasonable recommendations and tell you why I recommend it with studies or explanation. I have celiac so I am super familiar with every vitamin deficency and am pretty good at helping people feel a little better at least. I know having a chronic illness is the absolute worst, especially when doctors don’t know and you aren’t getting better.
I really appreciate that, I’ll consider taking you up on that after I get blood-work next. I suspect I am celiac as well and I have recently taken action to cut gluten out entirely, with some improvement.
Oh sure, feel free to message me any time about it. Even just for food recs- Thai food is almost always gluten free or has extensive gluten free options. Good luck, hope things get better
I agree with a lot of that but honestly, what is the Russian capability currently to open up a new front anywhere if we are not talking nuclear war?
Sure they’re prepared to waste a lot. But can they waste that much without getting into so severe issues that even their propaganda won’t push through? Oh right, I forget, propaganda is basically for foreign states and domestically you can just use threats of violence and arrests.
Also “carrying capacity” is a poor way to talk about bad infrastructure.
People make fun of the Civilization games, but in them, you can win more than one way. War doesn’t have to be fought with nukes (or even bombs - eg economically, culturally) and largely hasn’t been, especially recently.
Russia is being propped up by China and India et al. Imo when the west is more weakened, China will make their moves for Taiwan and the South China Sea. But maybe not, or maybe in a way we don’t expect (eg diplomatically) because China REALLY wants to be seen as like, the main guys who are super reasonable and modern etc. Recommend the PBS documentary Made in Ethiopia to see a little of China’s foreign policy in action. They want clean hands, I think. But they want those territories too.
We are actually now past 7 of 9 planetary boundaries to support human life. Reducing the carrying capacity (aka total human population) of the earth won’t help, we need everyone to work together to solve these issues. Imo a sun shield in space to deflect some UV would buy us time to sequester carbon and create sustainable living solutions. I think if the rich kill everyone, they will also die. I do not think they have the intellect or wisdom to solve this without the people of the world.
I think if the rich kill everyone, they will also die.
They have been preparing for decades, at least. You are free to believe what you want though.
They want the Fallout games to become reality. It’s almost certain. Fuck all of that. Pushing the development of AI unsustainably in a way that other countries can mirror (e.g. China) is suicide for the country, besides them, and solidifies my belief.
It doesn’t matter how long they’ve prepared. What’s coming will destroy ecologies in huge ways, possibly collapsing all megafauna and even things like insects which have already experienced significant population collapses. People need vitamins and micronutrients to live, requires a varied diet.
We barely grow plants in space. Biosphere thing barely worked and needed outside intervention. We NEED earth. I say this as a person very educated in science- we NEED the planet intact.
The Titanic sub was a preview of the hubris of the wealthy against science. They are genuinely so narcissistic they think they can conquer extreme natural phenomena.
They particularly like AI because they believe it’s the perfect slave (and we are not because we can dissent). So yeah they will kill the world for it. And for oil, and for gold, and for money, and manufacturing, because capitalism requires capital be made and sought even if ot isnt efficient and people die. Capital above all else.
Recent history has been nearly unpredictable for a while now. Thanks for chatting even if strong emotions flew around. I am not your enemy and we may have more common ground than initially thought. Take care.
I -already- said I am acutely aware of recent developments. We disagree. Russia is not capable, India is unstable, and China is likely to let Russia fail as they essentially already have been. World war is absolute suicide for the human race.
If I trusted my government, I’d be more inclined to agree with you. I’ve been lied to and gaslit far too much. My government didn’t represent my interests or the interests of the American people even under Obama. Centralized power structures are literally the problem causing every single thing we are talking about, for the most part.
Wouldn’t it be possible to organize a vote of no confidence outside of our election system to depose our government?
You edited your initial response to me after posting. I caught your comment before you finished.
Linking me documentaries and books instead of direct, primary sources does not respect my time.
Russia has been capable for a decade now and again, has been propped up by China including the use of NK.
Suicide for the human race? Duh. And that’s climate change. They want to reduce the carrying capacity of the earth because they cannot figure out other ways. Already huge catastrophic floods in China. Farming and food will take a hit soon.
Then don’t use it. Just like we have a post office, and UPS. But you need communications to be centralized somewhat lol, that’s how communcation works. You also wouldn’t say anything on there you wouldn’t say in a Town Hall, it would be your official profile. The power structure also wouldn’t be as centralized as regular social media- that’s why you can sue and demand things, based on constitution and bill of rights and other laws. That means you actually have power over it.
There’s no legal way for us to depose the government or even to suggest to depose the government. I would never organize to depose the government. I would never trust someone on social suggesting such a thing either. I have other plans for addressing this, and they are nunya.
I never removed that. Repsect your time? How about respect your blatant ignorance? Complicated topics cannot be summarized in a Tweet or Lemmy post, they take time like books, long form media, or yes, documentaries and news interviews, gasp. Not everything is so simple, sorry kiddo. And the documentary interviews primary sources like Hillary Clinton and John McCain. The documentary IS a primary source. You’d know that if you’d just watch it. It’s free on Youtube and has been linked. How intellectually pathetic of you, as I suspected you’d be.
Disagree. I believe Russia will see a coup or revolution before a proper war. They have utterly failed against Ukraine, it’s unbelievable to me how much they have failed. I have been observing the invasion, now and again, since day 1 - and the buildup prior to that.
See my instance. I’m aware. It is my opinion and belief that the oligarchy here in America wants the whole world to perish while they wait it out in their self-sufficient bunkers.
I argue for decentralized, loosely standardized, democratic, socialist structures. The legal system is absolutely and completely busted. I really shouldn’t need to get into that. Hopefully you can agree that the Supreme Court is beyond saving. Your idea is a fantasy, but it’s a nice one if there was any state that truly represented its populace. I do value it though, and even if I call it a fantasy, I like it in theory.
Guess we just let Trump destroy the government and install a complete dictatorship in earnest…
I disagree, we do have power.
If people in debates are told to source their claims, there is a preference towards direct evidence, primary sources, and specific excerpts. I prefer direct evidence, specific excerpts, and related argumentation. If a primary source does not provide direct evidence openly, I’m not hunting for it at the drop of a hat or trusting it at face value unless it is convincing. This shouldn’t be difficult.
Regardless, I will expose myself to the documentary and book with an open mind when I have literal -hours- or -days- to digest it all, and you are absolutely free to disagree with my opinions and personal beliefs. I accept being called naive because I care about the human race and I want it broadly return to sanity - the consequences of a world war are absolutely unimaginable. Forecasting war doesn’t help anything, unless you are in the military preparing to respond if it does happen.
A major goal of nearly every Russian war is to kill off their own young men (in this war, esp indigenous people living near Mongolia are being sent to war to die). A lot of wars are like that - two leaders with populations that are getting agitated, send them to fight each other and take all their stuff and their women. Classic attack by the top to the bottom and gaslight them that it was for a good cause the whole time. Maybe Russia could have a coup or revolution, but maybe not. Hasn’t happened to Putin yet but we can dream.
I think it’s the global wealthy, but same. The Titanic sub was a preview of the wealthy’s hubris when it comes to science.
I think our legal system as its bare bones isn’t bad. The way arguments are presented etc. It was formed via Greek philosophy, at the same time as ideas like democracy lol. They are intrinsically related and good faith arguments and logic are the cornerstone of progress and society and fact. There’s so many amazing, empowering, and incredible things about our legal system. A huge part of the fight for civil rights was literally fought in the courtroom. Please study the civil rights era to understand progressive movements with courts.
But there’s many many things that can be done to reform the issues in it incl the Supreme Court. I figure you would like it, because it is decentralized and one of the only ways an average citizen can get any kind of power in this country over their government. Pretty rad.
Yeah again my plans are not your business and not something I discuss online. Youre giving off Fed energy over there.
I can tell you’ve never been homeless or did anything with the homeless network. Ever hear of Slab City? The government is effective as a slave machine and will grind you up in it no problem. I am an abolitionist first, and imo the most important thing is to stay free as much as possible and to hold onto the power you have as much as possible. Being thoughtful during fascist takeover is wise. Take battles wisely.
The documentary is direct evidence, primary sources, and specific excerpts. Literally there’s even pictures. It’s so solid as evidence and as a case, they didn’t even get sued by Trump over it (avoiding discovery). Length does not determine validity. And it’s so weird of you to push back on it as a source just because you’re too big of a baby to learn what everyone else has been talking about for years - it came out in 2018.
If you want to do this democratically - then go to the protests and town halls and talk to people. Go ahead. I’m not stopping you, there are many movements like that already.
I concede, but I think some are more prepared than others.
Perhaps there are solid foundations present, but slow reform will not save us. We literally can’t afford to delay immediate action.
You were free to not engage, that was me being incredibly brave in light of recent developments. I don’t take great measures to hide my identity online and I don’t care to.
Then why didn’t the US government under Biden take action? I’m serious. I immediately told you I’d check them out, I am aware of the allegations loosely being made by at least the book from other sources.
We need country-scale action. I spend most of my days living with impaired health, bed-bound - I can do only so much by myself. I’m doing my best to improve my health when doctors aren’t trying to kill me. I have had extremely life-threatening encounters with the healthcare system.
I have lived in a rural area, in poverty, without much dignity at all, and with chronic illness my entire life. I am gay, autistic, regularly discriminated against, I have experienced prolonged sexual and physical abuse with absolutely no support, and I am effectively a dissident in the state I live in. It’s only through incredible kindness that I am not homeless.
And I have volunteered to directly help the homeless in the past. I’m not the vanguard, I’m just giving small nudges here and there where I can and am able.
Wisdom is as important as bravery.
They tried but Barr and Mueller were limp dicks. It represents a MAJOR FAILURE of that admin along with the election interference.
I said that about homelessness because it is true anarchy, and maximum danger by the state, and no homeless person or formerly homeless would call the state ineffective or think it wouldn’t try to immediately enslave them when it notices them. Slab City is a homeless city in the desert, and they aren’t even safe there from police taking them. And yes online stories say no cops in the Slabs but that isn’t true, police go by routinely.
Helping the homeless isn’t the same in terms of the anarchist way of living and mindset towards the state, although it is kind.
Online communities are great for disabled people but yes can represent a danger these days.
I am not a doctor but if you ever want help with vitamins and your health issues, I can try to give you reasonable recommendations and tell you why I recommend it with studies or explanation. I have celiac so I am super familiar with every vitamin deficency and am pretty good at helping people feel a little better at least. I know having a chronic illness is the absolute worst, especially when doctors don’t know and you aren’t getting better.
I really appreciate that, I’ll consider taking you up on that after I get blood-work next. I suspect I am celiac as well and I have recently taken action to cut gluten out entirely, with some improvement.
Oh sure, feel free to message me any time about it. Even just for food recs- Thai food is almost always gluten free or has extensive gluten free options. Good luck, hope things get better
I agree with a lot of that but honestly, what is the Russian capability currently to open up a new front anywhere if we are not talking nuclear war?
Sure they’re prepared to waste a lot. But can they waste that much without getting into so severe issues that even their propaganda won’t push through? Oh right, I forget, propaganda is basically for foreign states and domestically you can just use threats of violence and arrests.
Also “carrying capacity” is a poor way to talk about bad infrastructure.
The world isn’t full. It’s built wrong.
People make fun of the Civilization games, but in them, you can win more than one way. War doesn’t have to be fought with nukes (or even bombs - eg economically, culturally) and largely hasn’t been, especially recently.
Russia is being propped up by China and India et al. Imo when the west is more weakened, China will make their moves for Taiwan and the South China Sea. But maybe not, or maybe in a way we don’t expect (eg diplomatically) because China REALLY wants to be seen as like, the main guys who are super reasonable and modern etc. Recommend the PBS documentary Made in Ethiopia to see a little of China’s foreign policy in action. They want clean hands, I think. But they want those territories too.
Russia uses extensive propaganda domestically.
I say carrying capacity because that’s how they view it in light of climate change and all the other issues we face: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adh2458
We are actually now past 7 of 9 planetary boundaries to support human life. Reducing the carrying capacity (aka total human population) of the earth won’t help, we need everyone to work together to solve these issues. Imo a sun shield in space to deflect some UV would buy us time to sequester carbon and create sustainable living solutions. I think if the rich kill everyone, they will also die. I do not think they have the intellect or wisdom to solve this without the people of the world.
They have been preparing for decades, at least. You are free to believe what you want though.
They want the Fallout games to become reality. It’s almost certain. Fuck all of that. Pushing the development of AI unsustainably in a way that other countries can mirror (e.g. China) is suicide for the country, besides them, and solidifies my belief.
It doesn’t matter how long they’ve prepared. What’s coming will destroy ecologies in huge ways, possibly collapsing all megafauna and even things like insects which have already experienced significant population collapses. People need vitamins and micronutrients to live, requires a varied diet.
We barely grow plants in space. Biosphere thing barely worked and needed outside intervention. We NEED earth. I say this as a person very educated in science- we NEED the planet intact.
The Titanic sub was a preview of the hubris of the wealthy against science. They are genuinely so narcissistic they think they can conquer extreme natural phenomena.
They particularly like AI because they believe it’s the perfect slave (and we are not because we can dissent). So yeah they will kill the world for it. And for oil, and for gold, and for money, and manufacturing, because capitalism requires capital be made and sought even if ot isnt efficient and people die. Capital above all else.
I hope you are right.
I hope unpredictable events happen and everything turns out great
Recent history has been nearly unpredictable for a while now. Thanks for chatting even if strong emotions flew around. I am not your enemy and we may have more common ground than initially thought. Take care.