Looking for:
- no misogynists (so dbzer0 is out)
- no libertarians, no marxist lenninsts, no tankies, no rightwingers
- people who understand climate change is real
- leftists including anarchists, social democrats, democratic socialists, communists, etc are great
I picked world bc I was told it would have the most activity. Since joining Lemmy I have been repeatedly harassed by men on this instance, threatened with murder and rape by users including open Nazis (this was also happening on Reddit), and permabanned for being a woman, for being a feminist, and for not breaking any rules and posting factual news sources. Would like a better instance.
Have been considering solarpunk Lemmy but willing to consider other instances, just not sure
Eta: I’m looking for a recommendation of an instance, not your personal opinion on my experiences or feelings. If you are not going to give me the name of an instance you’d recommend, don’t comment.
Here’s a video where a man (Marxist economist) talks about deconstructing misogyny in his life: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPongiPj2wO/
Here’s an article on tone policing: https://www.housing.wisc.edu/2023/12/inclusive-language-series-tone-policing-2/
• You need to recognize the indicators of tone policing, such as telling someone to calm down or to lower their tone for their message to be better received.
• Understand that various levels of emotions will often be expressed, especially during political or hot topic conversations.
• To refrain from invalidating other people’s feelings, try self-reflecting on your desire to invalidate their emotions and think about if this is due to your own discomfort.
• Tone policing must stop, especially when engaging in conversations regarding experiences with discrimination, oppression, and racism.
Here’s an article on hysteria: https://www.bps.org.uk/psychologist/hysteria-historical-mirror-misogyny-medicine
During the early 20th century, women were thought to be unfit for politics as their biology made them prone to hysteria. The suffrage movement became linked to hysteria and mental disorder, due to propaganda from the press and the government (Iglikowski-Broad, 2018). Attempts at militancy in their pursuit for equality were branded as hysteria by anti-suffrage supporters, demonstrating how use of mental health could be used to belittle the efforts of the women at the time (Thompson, 2016).
Eta 2:
This user previously said very misogynistic things to me. They are now spam posting in here, bringing up rape and sexual harassment in a conversation where it was never mentioned by me, (so why is their mind jumping to THOSE words and why are they saying them?), telling me they don’t care if I consent, tagged by another user who has also taken screenshots and posted images of me in other instances, resulting in harassment of me. This is what I mean when I say it’s a boys’ club and you all don’t cultivate a culture worth being around.
One thing I didn’t want to be around was men covertly and overtly threatening rape. Why can’t that be respected?
Eta 3:
Here, since people are claiming Lemmy is a bastion of women’s rights and feminism, a list of some of the shit I have read with my own eyeballs:
https://lemmy.world/post/26165823/15375845
https://lemmy.world/post/18418589/11677815
https://lemmy.world/post/18874743/11908818
https://lemmy.world/post/18874743/11897056
https://lemmy.world/post/21875585/13419221
https://lemmy.world/post/25442510/15028415
https://lemmy.world/post/21749661/13348174
https://lemmy.world/post/21754431/13338541
https://lemmy.world/post/21781371/13358254
https://lemmy.world/post/21781371/13357806
https://lemmy.world/post/21644699/13284141
https://lemmy.world/post/21644699/13281744
https://lemmy.world/post/21644699/13279402
https://lemmy.world/post/21644699/13279402
https://lemmy.world/post/21644699/13273356
https://lemmy.world/post/21644699/13305826
https://lemmy.world/post/21644699/13341403
https://lemmy.world/post/21644699/13343945
https://lemmy.world/post/21644699/13344248
https://lemmy.world/post/26165823/15387334
https://lemmy.world/post/21754485/13353851
https://lemmy.world/post/21719864/13314587
https://lemmy.world/post/21749661/13344854
https://lemmy.world/post/19955762/12467131
https://lemmy.world/post/21587225/13261160
https://lemmy.world/post/18885944/11914214
https://lemmy.world/post/18885944/11953701
https://lemmy.world/post/18885944/11948206
https://lemmy.world/post/18418589/11692679
https://lemmy.world/post/18418589/11697513
https://lemmy.world/post/18941154/11952571
https://lemmy.world/post/18941154/11955324
https://lemmy.world/post/18941154/11956772
https://lemmy.world/post/21706199/13308410
https://lemmy.world/post/15236868/9990734
https://lemmy.world/post/19163039/12046901
https://lemmy.world/post/19163039/12059630
https://lemmy.world/post/19163039/12045644
https://lemmy.world/post/18173994/11513002
https://lemmy.world/post/18537428/11752735
https://lemmy.world/post/18537428/11769838
https://lemmy.world/post/18633431/11766518
https://lemmy.world/post/18641490/11789597
https://lemmy.world/post/18752556/11824223
https://lemmy.world/post/21754485/13359659
https://lemmy.world/post/21754485/13368360
https://lemmy.world/post/22307747/13595832
Eta 4: after reviewing this list (which didn’t even include all the advocacy for genocide here, advocacy to remove the right to vote and ither civil rights, blatant racism, hatred of homelessness, and more), I have decided Lemmy and most of the users here aren’t worth my time. Independent small forums on individual websites are more defederated and have less bots. Maybe I’ll change my mind and join solarpunk/piefed, but probably not. Bye, Lemmy, you were pretty abusive and horrible. I have better arguments on Bluesky about the literal same topics, with a smaller character limit. Have fun in WW3. No more warnings coming from me. May you all be treated exactly how you treat women.
If db0 is weirdly sexist, I’ll gladly leave this place. I’m 100% a feminist. But I’m not seeing any evidence of this.
OP thinks any reaction to them flipping their shit instantly and constantly is aimed at their gender, instead of them flipping their shit instantly and constantly.
Yeah she seems a little off. I think she posts a little oddly but I don’t think she’s bad because she’s a woman. I think she’s a bit stressed out lately, and understandably so.
Self defense isn’t being “off.”
Being angry isn’t being “off.”
These are reasonable reactions.
Here’s an article on tone policing: https://www.housing.wisc.edu/2023/12/inclusive-language-series-tone-policing-2/
Here’s an article on hysteria: https://www.bps.org.uk/psychologist/hysteria-historical-mirror-misogyny-medicine
You are promoting the idea of hysteria. This is offensive, and this belief results and resulted in women being enslaved with no trial in psychiatric (torture) facilities - something RFK Jr is literally actively pushing for. And you’re helping him with your rhetoric and responses, validating the idea that angry women are hysterical and “off” when pushing back against abuses by men, and that men are the reasonable ones by default and entitled to treating women bad. Is it reasonable to comment on a woman’s thread with personal attacks and denials of her experiences when she is asking for a simple instance recommendation? That seems like instigating to me. But no, no, these guys are totally fine and I’m off.
Would you like me to find all the comments I was responding to? The ones that promote pedophilia, rape, and subjugation of women? How exactly is the normal way to respond to that? Tell me, oh men, how you want to police my emotions. If only I could be a perfect victim like you.
Maybe just post the responses you write to the rape threats you get. Since obviously misogyny on here isn’t real, so the rape threats are something everyone is getting, right? Not just me. So post yours and show me how I should be responding to these attacks which definitely are all in my head as being misogyny. Go ahead.
Do you think Francine Hughes was wrong for setting her abusive husband on fire? The courts found her to be reacting noncriminally to her abuse in a landmark case for women’s rights in the 80s. Do you even know about that case? Or do you think women should ALL be quiet and just put up with abuse from men?
I used to think you might be cool because Eugene is cool. Not anymore. You’ve done quiet a bit of patriarchal enforcing here - this thread was about recommending an instance for me to move to, and you’re spending your time here trying to police with others whether I’ve personally experienced misogyny on Lemmy - that was never the point of the thread in the first place, yet you all feel SUPER COMFORTABLE dismissing my own words, experiences, and what I want… With no evidence except removed comments that show I’m upset at what is being said to me - not even the comment I am responding to. Why is that? It’s like you’re pushing a patriarchal narrative for the boys club. Shame on you. May the way you treat women come back on you tenfold.
https://shawngude.substack.com/p/eugene-debs-supported-womens-suffrage
You should change your username. You don’t have the spine or values to share his name.
Here’s an article on tone policing: https://www.housing.wisc.edu/2023/12/inclusive-language-series-tone-policing-2/
• You need to recognize the indicators of tone policing, such as telling someone to calm down or to lower their tone for their message to be better received.
• Understand that various levels of emotions will often be expressed, especially during political or hot topic conversations.
• To refrain from invalidating other people’s feelings, try self-reflecting on your desire to invalidate their emotions and think about if this is due to your own discomfort.
• Tone policing must stop, especially when engaging in conversations regarding experiences with discrimination, oppression, and racism.
Here’s an article on hysteria: https://www.bps.org.uk/psychologist/hysteria-historical-mirror-misogyny-medicine
During the early 20th century, women were thought to be unfit for politics as their biology made them prone to hysteria. The suffrage movement became linked to hysteria and mental disorder, due to propaganda from the press and the government (Iglikowski-Broad, 2018). Attempts at militancy in their pursuit for equality were branded as hysteria by anti-suffrage supporters, demonstrating how use of mental health could be used to belittle the efforts of the women at the time (Thompson, 2016).
And this is a very clear example.
Someone disagrees with anything you do or like and you automatically assume they must not know anything and require education on some super basic subjects. So you decide the correct way to convey your viewpoint is with a half page copypasta, stripping out the useful intro and just offering instructions.
You treat everyone like they’re simultaneously some kind of uneducated child and the personification of evil. Perhaps somewhat understandably, people don’t really take well to that.
And now that I see your replies, you also seem to be hyperfocussing on one specific offense to you, pasting to the same reply to numerous, completely different, people and posts. I totally see why you’re getting banned so much, no community wants spammy replies like that.
Here’s an article on tone policing: https://www.housing.wisc.edu/2023/12/inclusive-language-series-tone-policing-2/
• You need to recognize the indicators of tone policing, such as telling someone to calm down or to lower their tone for their message to be better received.
• Understand that various levels of emotions will often be expressed, especially during political or hot topic conversations.
• To refrain from invalidating other people’s feelings, try self-reflecting on your desire to invalidate their emotions and think about if this is due to your own discomfort.
• Tone policing must stop, especially when engaging in conversations regarding experiences with discrimination, oppression, and racism.
Here’s an article on hysteria: https://www.bps.org.uk/psychologist/hysteria-historical-mirror-misogyny-medicine
You do lack education. You do act like an ignorant child. You are causing harm. I do not need to rewrite well established summaries anew for everyone who struggles with the concepts of tone policing and hysteria.
And look in the mirror. Your attitude is worse than mine and you uphold systems of oppression too. Disgusting.
No. Wrong.
This, see below, he says they have a screengrab of my comments.
Please understand completely that misogyny IS gender fascism. I do not give a FUCK about being palatable to ANY fascists. Have you smelled the blood of a woman giving birth? Do you understand what that kind of slavery is like? Do you understand what has been at stake for your mother and every woman for months? Or are you blind and numb to it because it doesn’t involve you?
This sexist rhetoric online and elsewhere has been an issue since Gamergate, it’s pusged by massive 5tth gen warfare networks with MINIMAL pushback, and women were told to pipe down and it’s the boys club - and now abortion rights have been taken away and they are seriously trying to take away the right to vote, the right to divorce, the right to beat and rape your wife (spousal rape was still legal in the 90s). Me insulting people like this is like me insulting blatant genocidal Nazis - which I’ve also done and received raoe and death threats for… because they are all fascists.
Some of us have to stand for something and say something. The reason they squirm and complain is because it works.
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