People always say this to but I don’t think it’s even true, or misrepresents greatly the situation.
North Korea was the better place to live until the collapse of the USSR and mid-90s famine. That’s not up for debate. Their living standard and quality of life were overall much higher than ROK thanks to Russian subsidies.
North Korea has far less farmland than the ROK, which has many more river valleys and warmer latitudes. North Korea also lacks trading partners due to sanctions, while ROK currently imports around 80 percent of its food.
The US and ROK time their military drills specifically to fuck with DPRK’s planting and harvesting seasons, forcing them to divert manpower to defense positions when they need able-bodied men to be on farms.
Given these three points, I think North Korean hunger is almost entirely due to the US and its policies. But nobody likes to hear that the Kims might not be horrible monsters
People who escape North Korea have zero prospects here in the ROK where I currently live. It’s the most competitive economy and job market you can imagine.
Defectors have no professional certifications, no college degree, and no plastic surgery (pervasive in ROK where a photo is required to add to your CV).
Moreover, ROK people are highly judgmental toward anybody different. North Koreans “talk funny” so they are immediately outcast.
(Recently, to address the situation, the ROK government has started a program to get NK refugees jobs as bus drivers)
The best way for these refugees to make money is to tell their stories. And the more sensational, the better. They get speaking gigs, book deals, and small fame with their faces on TV.
Here’s a news story addressing its directly: Why do North Korean defector testimonies so often fall apart? | North Korea | The Guardian https://share.google/fqpw81A1uZwXk0lR7
Thought terminating…no it’s describing the conspiracy theorists that both shine on both sides, this is like Alex Jones with sandy hook saying it was paid actors.
Biased and fake are entirely different things but it’s not easy. The general idea is to get sources outside of your geopolitical context to compare against the sources that have the same biases you were raised with
Turns out South Korea was a brutal military dictatorship under the backing of the US way longer than you’d think
USA and brutal dictatorships, name a more iconic duo!
North Korea and brutal dictatorship
How many regimes did NK install themselves?
The Kims never killed 30 thousand people in a few days
The Kims did starve to death a magnitude more over a handful of years.
People always say this to but I don’t think it’s even true, or misrepresents greatly the situation.
North Korea was the better place to live until the collapse of the USSR and mid-90s famine. That’s not up for debate. Their living standard and quality of life were overall much higher than ROK thanks to Russian subsidies.
North Korea has far less farmland than the ROK, which has many more river valleys and warmer latitudes. North Korea also lacks trading partners due to sanctions, while ROK currently imports around 80 percent of its food.
The US and ROK time their military drills specifically to fuck with DPRK’s planting and harvesting seasons, forcing them to divert manpower to defense positions when they need able-bodied men to be on farms.
Given these three points, I think North Korean hunger is almost entirely due to the US and its policies. But nobody likes to hear that the Kims might not be horrible monsters
imagine simping for NK like this lol.
Why don’t you directly address my points instead?
Why it’s NK. Enough said
How the fuck is that “simping”?
Russia and brutal dictatorships? They’re both up there
Lets just say “superpowers and brutal dictatorships”.
Whoevers dominating in a period in history generally didn’t get there by advocating for peace and self determination.
Democracy has been a relatively recent form of government in the grand scheme of things.
The way the US has been acting, they never seemed to think that democracy is a good form of government, either.
The Ancient Greeks would like several words.
Okay, but have you heard the President of North Korea claimed he scored a perfect golf game and doesn’t poop? That’s pretty bad, too.
Or North Korea’s imprisonment of entire generations of a family as a form of collective punishment.
Two things can be bad, you don’t have to rush to defend one side.
Real question: Is this even true?
If it’s true, how true is it? Who actually receives those punishment? For what crimes?
oh i forgot, the people who have escaped NK are all paid actors /s
Actually this is somewhat true.
People who escape North Korea have zero prospects here in the ROK where I currently live. It’s the most competitive economy and job market you can imagine.
Defectors have no professional certifications, no college degree, and no plastic surgery (pervasive in ROK where a photo is required to add to your CV).
Moreover, ROK people are highly judgmental toward anybody different. North Koreans “talk funny” so they are immediately outcast.
(Recently, to address the situation, the ROK government has started a program to get NK refugees jobs as bus drivers)
The best way for these refugees to make money is to tell their stories. And the more sensational, the better. They get speaking gigs, book deals, and small fame with their faces on TV.
Here’s a news story addressing its directly: Why do North Korean defector testimonies so often fall apart? | North Korea | The Guardian https://share.google/fqpw81A1uZwXk0lR7
TL;DR NK refugees are “paid actors” in a sense
Horseshoe theory in action.
Please address my points or stop replying 🤷🏻♀️
“horseshoe theory” is another thought-terminating cliché
Thought terminating…no it’s describing the conspiracy theorists that both shine on both sides, this is like Alex Jones with sandy hook saying it was paid actors.
Here’s a fun game - try sourcing that absurd claim without using any media source funded by NED/USAGM
Those are the only media sources that have freedom and liberty, though. We HAVE to trust them or we become Tankies.
Liberty is when news sources are controlled by the security state
I gave him an article and he still hems and haws because he is full of shit
I would. But noone outside of NK can communicate to koreans to ask questions.
Here’s a fun game - try sourcing unbiased news.
There is literally no such thing
then why even ask someone to source a claim that’s funded to make it biased when all media is biased?
All media serves the funders and context from which it comes. There is no escaping this, only understanding and compensating
how do you compensate when you believe that all media is biased and all the news is fake?
Biased and fake are entirely different things but it’s not easy. The general idea is to get sources outside of your geopolitical context to compare against the sources that have the same biases you were raised with
Not pooping sounds like an advantage though
If poop somehow magically teleported from my colon to the sewer I’d save so much time and toilet paper.
:)
But then I’d have no excuse to be alone in an otherwise empty room 30 minutes every day
:(
Ah, that’s why he is so fat and instead of exploding, he just talks so much shit, to at least get rid of some of it