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Some protein powders and shakes tested by Consumer Reports contained levels of lead, a heavy metal, that experts say could raise the risk of long-term health problems.
Scientists hired by Consumer Reports, an independent non-profit based out of the U.S., tested 23 popular protein products, and found lead levels ranging from zero to 7.7 micrograms per serving — above the stringent limits set by the state of California, but below U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) standard for females of childbearing age.
There is no safe level of lead for human consumption, though it finds its way into many foods because lead is present in the environment.
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Sooooo thats how they got it sweeter without sugar. Not the alternative I would have choose.
While it does vaguely link to the Consumer Reports link, most sites just auto-link to the home page or some redirect.
Media should just show the list, and first, always.
I say vaguely because on mobile one has to hold their finger on the link and in some cases copy-paste it elsewhere to see what the contents is. That’s just malicious publishing.
There’s no way MY plant-based protein powder is on here…
Fuck.
Looking at the usual clientele for that stuff, it cannot do serious damage anymore.
The producers: Working as designed, you wanted to increase your mass.
I will say while these numbers sound alarming they are using California’s regulations which are a thousand times more rigorous than the FDA’s federal guidelines.
Now I understand the FDA is not the source it once was but these rules come from before the recent, let’s say restructuring.
It is good to be mindful of your intake of heavy metals however these are well within the safe limits and it is important to know that anytime you’re dealing with organic material you have a higher risk of lead and cadmium as they occur naturally occur in soil
Let’s also not forget that it’s been California’s stringent regulations on lots of things that have dragged the rest of the country forward against the will of corporations.
This is unfortunate news for all the protein bros who never understood excess protein simply gets excreted by the kidneys (and can even stress them if taken to extremes, as some protein bros do).
I was heartened to see this explained in a very mainstream text - The Bowflex Body Plan. IIRC, the author actually went to school and was a body builder while in school. He had a professor (of nutrition?) tell him to measure it. He was shocked to learn that he was literally pissing away huge amounts of money.
This book was published over 20 years ago, and I think the protein myth has only gotten worse since then. It’s not just the gym rats doing “bro science”, it seems even soccer moms and people that probably don’t even do mild exercise all have this perverse idea that they are going to die without supplementing large amounts of protein.
Yup. A context-free factoid goes viral, and then someone figures out how to profit off the suckers.
This is not really a big deal.
https://news.immunologic.org/p/consumer-reports-latest-panic-toxic
The MADL for lead outlined by Proposition 65 is 0.5 µg of lead per day. This value was set, arbitrarily in 1989, even though scientific evidence continues to show that it’s wildly unrealistic and not remotely near an exposure that would be a health concern. It remains unchanged because Prop 65 is a political tool, not a scientific one. Consumer Reports decides to ignore FDA interim reference levels for lead in their assessment. These levels are 8.8 µg per day for reproductive age females and 12.5 µg for general adults, 17.6-times and 25-times higher daily exposure levels compared to the Prop 65 levels, respectively, and are already extremely conservative (more on how those are calculated in a moment).
Not saying you shouldn’t take it into consideration, but it’s not as big of a deal as CR is making it out to be.
There is no “safe” amount of lead. It doesn’t get passed out of the body through biological functions, it accumulates (in bone, IIRC)
It accumulates in bone, yes, but not all of it does. It also collects in blood and organs where it is passes fairly quickly. The FDA sets their guidelines based on safe blood levels of lead and their recommendation is I think 1/10 the actual value to build in a pretty big safety buffer.
We’re already exposed to lead constantly through the environment, etc. It’s not just present in foods and other man made things. It’s definitely in many of the foods we eat, not just protein powder. Root vegetables, grain crops, etc. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0963996920303951
I don’t think it’s necessarily a bad idea to try your best, but I also don’t think it’s worth stressing over with these protein powders compared to other stuff you may already be ingesting.
Oh boy. I wonder what true nutrition’s custom powders are like; or rather from where they’re sourcing their stuff…
Where does all the lead come from? Sadly when I think of lead in products I usually think of China, various Chinese manufacturers love using lead as a filler or for whitening.
Lots of plants will ingest lead, cadmium, and other heavy metals from the soil. Apple seeds are high in arsenic, for example.
Wow, what a great quote. Just perfect:
We’ve created this health halo around protein. It gives us an excuse to eat a lot of things we shouldn’t be eating."
I’m a vegetarian, so maybe as a result I’m prone to notice it more (because, even in 2025, I get people asking me “but how do you get your protein?!”), but calling the protein phenomenon when it comes to culture a “health halo” is just one of the best ways I’ve seen it described.
Probably one of the best examples was the creation of the “protein bar”. And now we see the protein amounts listed prominently even on some restaurant menus. We have people thinking protein is some kind of health food.
I suggest reading The Protein Myth - great book.
Amazon reviews say the book doesn’t debunk our need for protein. The bigger you are in terms of muscle mass, the more protein you need in your diet. That doesn’t change if you’re vegan.
Vegan strongman Patrik Baboumian eats 410 grams of plant-based protein per day, a lot of which is made up of vegan protein powders. These are exactly what this report about lead is warning against.
Plants are ultra-concentrators of metals in soil, including heavy metals like lead and cadmium. Protein powder is an ultra-concentrated product, further increasing the risks of high lead levels. Anyone like Baboumian who wants to build a lot of muscle while maintaining a vegan diet needs to be very careful about where they source their protein powder.
Amazon reviews say the book doesn’t debunk our need for protein.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone make that claim. I sure hope no one is out there making that claim. I surely am not. I’m talking about the way it gets treated in society as if it’s somehow “healthy” to be eating massive amounts of protein, especially animal protein. Just pay attention to how it’s marketed for everyday foods, including at restaurants.
And yes, in some cases, there are people that may need more protein if they are trying to build/maintain muscle mass. I’ve seen the documentary w/ Patrik in it. This is hardly typical kinds of intake, though, and I’d wager a lot of people that are eating lots of protein are just overworking their kidneys and pissing most of it out a few hours later. Even athletes.
If I had the ability, I’d actually be curious to measure my own intake vs. waste, much like the author of that Bowflex book I mentioned. This guy was also a body builder…
Most people these days are terribly out of shape, overweight/obese, and have way too much body fat and way too little muscle mass. People eat way too much fat and carbs and way too little protein. They also don’t move nearly enough, of course, so eating protein without doing the work is not going to help.
Since I’ve started lifting weights and trying to build muscle and lose weight, I’ve begun to realize how difficult it is to get enough protein to do that without spending a lot of money on meat or eating a bunch of legumes (and feeling awful all day the next day).
Forget 410 grams per day. It’s hard enough to get 100 grams per day without supplementing.
We’ve created this health halo around protein. It gives us an excuse to eat a lot of things we shouldn’t be eating."
Eating high protein isn’t about health it’s for body building. I don’t know anyone that uses protein supplements that isn’t on some kind of strength training plan. Listing protein on products is useful to those that need more than the recommended minimum to recover and build muscle as it can be difficult to get a sufficient amount in that scenario, especially if your options are limited to fast food crap.
Personally I havent seen the protein craze in real time but I remember a Frontline episode from 3 to 5 years back that called out how unregulated the supliment industry is. None of this is surprising
I think it’s just marketing to people that are sort of half-tuned in, but know that protein is something your body does need. And they aren’t wrong. But unless you are eating a very bizarre or restricted diet, it’s not likely you have to count grams of protein. One of the ways you see this kind of thing slip into menus is to have someone select “a protein” as an option to be added to your meal. Typically, it’s a protein from a dead animal, thus reinforcing the false notion that “protein” = meat. It’s extra amusing when the portion already includes egg and/or cheese…and the “protein” is actually a “fat”.
The author of The Protein Myth has a funny anecdote where he has to dig deeper into people’s proclaimed dietary habits. He asks them what they eat for breakfast, and they’ll say something like “a protein”. He digs deeper and finds out it sausage or the like. It’d be more accurate to describe that as “a fat”, if we are only thinking of foods as what macronutrient they have the most of…
If you pay attention, you’ll notice the marketing in any case - I’m pretty sure I’ve seen it on fast casual dining boards.
Look, I have zero problems with the notion of giving a good breakdown of what’s in your food, including protein. But it’s weird to see it as some kind of marketing gimmick, if you ask me. It’s not as if nutrition and health works like that - take one value, dial it way up, and we’re good, LOL. I bet most Americans have little to no idea how much sodium (or even sugar) they consume in a given day, but I am quite sure a few of the “bro science” types could definitely tell you how many grams of protein they ingest…
Edit4: 0.02 mg? 3 mg? I hate numbers. Don’t listen to me, I know nothing.
Edit3: so as far as I can tell for now (and I’m not good with numbers), it’s 0.02 mcg of lead per kg for food in powder form in the EU. Which does mean that 6.3 mcg per 90 g serving of Huel exceeds that by far.
So why can they sell this in the EU? I am distressed.
Edit: wait. What? Am I seeing this correctly that EU laws set the upper limit at2520 mcg per kgof body weight per week? Because that is WAY more than the upper limit set by CR. (Or is it?)Edit2: I am now very unsure about all these numbers and I can’t find any clear information. Goddammit.
One serving of Huel’s Black Edition powder contained 6.3 micrograms of lead, or about 1,290 percent of CR’s daily lead limit.
_**FUCK.**_One serving of Huel’s Black Edition plant-based protein powder contained 9.2 micrograms of cadmium, more than double the level that public health authorities and CR’s experts say may be harmful to have daily, which is 4.1 micrograms.
**_FUCK._**It’s worth noting that the safe levels of lead are determined by when it causes organ damage. A much higher limit than the point at which lead causes neurological damage. Which is 0. There is no neurologically safe level of lead.
These are completely within normal levels for other foods and it’s mostly pea protein, which is bioaccumulating from the soil. This isn’t like the cinnamon lead scandal or something (which was caused by contamination from gas fumes in shipping because we destroyed Nigeria’s government to lower costs)
I hate this type of article because they use the numbers from the singular worst finding and then refuse to name names.
source @ cr:
https://www.consumerreports.org/lead/protein-powders-and-shakes-contain-high-levels-of-lead-a4206364640/the page doesn’t appear to be locked behind their membership paywall like reviews and ratings are.
Nice, thanks!
Did… did you read the article? It even has pictures of the offending products.
I feel like we aren’t seeing the same thing. On mobile, the CBC.CA page does not show any pictures of the 23 brands. At the very end they have quotes for 2 brands by name but not associated with the actual levels found in the study and those two brands quoted are the only direct name mentions. Top comment even implies I’m right by linking “the actual information”.
