Arrr no!
Anyway…
Trying to log into AWS this morning for work, and while I’m waiting for the errors to clear out I stumbled upon this article. Thanks for posting!
Oh no! Wait I don’t watch shows anyway.
Meanwhile, my piracy stream app with all those combined together is working fine…
Sorry I missed this. I was too busy enjoying my library of media locally over Jellyfin.
https://health.aws.amazon.com/health/status
I suspect the big problem is that IAM (AWS authentication system) is affected and it is not decentralized, which is causing other systems worldwide to fail because the internal authentication is broken.
I can’t login to the AWS console to check on my stuff in the European zone, because the login goes through IAM in us-east-1 where all the authentication does.
It really highlights just how centralized so much of the internet is on like three companies (Amazon, Microsoft, and Google)
It really highlights just how centralized so much of the internet is on like three companies (Amazon, Microsoft, and Google)
Cloudflare: What am I? Chopped liver?
There is a chrome addon that will “block” anything from AWS with the goal being you get to see how much of the world relies on it.
I’m starting to understand why some companies are starting to exit AWS and back to their own data centers.
AWS doesn’t go down that often to impact such decisions I wouldn’t think… I think it’s more likely that these companies calculated that AWS isn’t worth the price for their workloads?
I’ve been at several companies where just a day’s worth of their AWS costs would be able to finance significantly stronger compute/storage, in addition to an administration team for all that. (Of course it’s not that simple, but you get what I mean)
Oh no, anyways
opens VLC to watch stuff I already downloaded a few days ago
Funny, my digitized collection of movies and TV shows seems to be working just fine. :3
Funny, people who spent ludicrous amounts of time and money to build up private libraries can’t pass the opportunity to be conceited. :3
Ludicrous amounts of time and money? What do you think is involved with media piracy? lol
To be fair, if they are talking about digitizing your own library, yes, it can take a lot of time. When I attempted it, each DVD took about a half hour to 45 minutes to rip. I flat out didn’t have that kind of time with the size of my collection. It is way easier, although riskier, to download.
It’s ok to be jealous, it’s a normal emotion.
I think they were just pointing out that this is the problem with subscription services. You own nothing and you’re screwed when the service goes down.
It really doesn’t take “ludicrous amounts of time and money” to build a private library. It’s interesting how the subscription giants have managed to change people’s perceptions - when you buy content to keep, you keep some of the value, but when you subscribe you’re just getting a time pass to use someone else’s library and won’t see that money again.
They sold the proposition on convenience when everything was in one place, but now it’s all fragmented it’s a waste of money.
And of course plenty of people are building media libraries for free by sailing the seas.
@BananaTrifleViolin @dukemirage a huge proportion of the stuff people watch on Netflix/listen to on Spotify is really old media you could get second hand on CD/DVD for pennies. I mean how much is a Friends box set going for nowadays
Interestingly enough, cheaper on bluray at about ~$70 than on DVD at around $120.
Though cheaper still would be a yard sale, the library, or the high seas.
That’s because the DVDs have extended scenes and they have been lost since and are only available on DVD
a time pass to use someone else’s library and won’t see that money again
like renting in the old days, I’m fine with that
Except it didn’t matter if Blockbuster’s headquarters had a power outage since tour physical VHS from them worked fine where ever you were. Pretty much every major web service uses AWS, so if AWS goes down, so does the Internet.
What’s even funnier are the people who spend lots of money on subscription services to own nothing. This outage just demonstrates who really owns their purchases.
it’s not like people were being scammed
It IS a scam since a lot of subscription services do not make it clear that the buyer is only granted limited access, and not ownership of the product.
Just last year, due to legal reasons, Steam placed a notice on their cart page stating that purchases only grant a license—much to the surprise of some Steam users. Steam has been around for 20+ years, and it took a piece of legislation to force the company to inform their buyers of this very important fact. It is clear that they would rather have misinformed customers, much like in a scam.
Steam is not a subscription service and in contrast to the services mentioned in the headline there is indeed grounds to be confused about what I’m actually buying. no one is surprised that a monthly subscription to say Disney+ does not grants them unlimited access forever. and buying on DRM-free platforms like GOG or itch also only grants a license, you’ll never own a piece of software by buying it in a video game store.
Steam is not a subscription service
Steam provides a cloud service. Not dissimilar to other subscription-based services. Had they been using AWS, they would also have been affected by the outage, resulting in Steam also being mentioned in the headline. So it’s just as relevant as the others.
you’ll never own a piece of software by buying it in a video game store.
Sure, I’m both granted a license on both Steam or GOG, but the crucial difference is still about offline access. If GOG stopped existing tomorrow, I’d still be able to install, and play, all my GOG games. The same cannot be said for Steam. Which one, then, grants the most ownership? License or no license.
Tell that to all the people who’ve purchased digital copies of movies and TV to own only to have these companies later pull those licenses and leave them with nothing.
streaming service: 15-20€ per month per service me: vpn 5€ and a cheap hard drive
i’d be poorer with subscribing
you gotta compare prices with buying stuff / dealing with people on classifieds. would also be cheaper, no need to for the pirate’s entitlement.
i don’t really understand your point. even buying used dvd’s or blu-rays is marginally cheaper than subscription services. people just became too comfortable.
users pay for convenience and when the service stops their money is gone and they have nothing in return.
even buying used dvd’s or blu-rays is marginally cheaper than subscription services.
that’s what i meant.
people just became too comfortable.
most people don’t like being uncomfortable for such a minor thing like soft entertainment.
i wonder why you started off on a high horse? like yea of course digitally independent people will brag about it because they´ve been telling everyone for ages they are right and we generally seem to agree
OP started off on a high horse
Nope, buying things second hand should be considered just as bad as pirating as you’re depriving the creators of their entitlements, just to take your argument to its logical conclusion.
that’s not a logical conclusion
Sure it is. Its their content and you’re not paying them for it which is the same as stealing, right?
a thriving second hand market fuels the retail market, piracy does not.
@CmdrShepard49 @dukemirage If ten people want to store or listen to the same original album at the same time then the creator gets to sell ten copies. Then they might hand them on, but ten copies are still out there. Maybe an eleventh person wants one but they’re all in use - they’re going to have to go back to the creator and buy a new one. If someone pirates one copy and gives it to nine people for them all to have at the same time then the creator only sells one copy, forever.
Yeah I mean, give us this one satisfaction!
yep!
I don’t wanna say I told you so, but …
It’s perfecto
Looks like it was an Amazon AWS outage. Just geos to how how vulnerable the Internet is as it becomes ever more concentrated into the hands of the tech giants.
The mindblowing part of it for me is that a company the size of Disney don’t seem to have the appetite to own and run their own servers.
These are the same people that managed to get two counties redistricted so that they could own their own city, and to this day literally buy the entire electorate by giving housing only to people who vote the way they’re told to.
As someone who works in tech I occasionally point out to people that if Jeff Bezos decided to go full supervillain he could hold the internet hostage. If you disabled AWS, Azure, or Google Cloud individually the cascading failures on the various systems would take weeks to fix, which we might not have with a supply chain collapse. Genuinely, I think there’s a real chance it could trigger the collapse of human civilization
Signal seems to be down as well?
Its back up now but that’s because Signal uses AWS.
I like signal and use it daily, but it is very strange that an app built for privacy and security doesn’t let you self host. I wonder about the reasoning behind that sometimes.
It appears to be resolved now? I’m able to message people.
It’s working on my end as well!
Good.
Why?
Maybe it will spur us to make the internet more decentralized like it was supposed to be.
Why not? Fuck Bezos.
Sucks to suck, I guess
Can’t even launch docker containers because auth.docker.io is down too.
