Honestly the whole Weimar turning into Nazi Germany thing was kinda a fluke historically speaking. Usually the empire in question implodes, stagnates, or decentralizes usually a mix of atleast two, unless it’s Rome where they will do all three plus a secret forth option and come out the other side.
The Nazis frankly speaking had Alexandrian level plot armor, if anything had gone even slightly different they may have collapsed before even operation Barbarossa.
I think in their case, a righteous anger against the Versailles Treaty fueled a good deal of the effort that they put into becoming a new empire. The rest of the fuel came from stealing from their Jewish and minority citizens, temporarily boosting their coffers. It couldn’t last, since there was no forethought about where to stop, and they destroyed their best financial gurus out of jealousy and stupidity.
Anyhow, I believe that Dogey America cannot handle a civil war. Unlike the Nazi regime’s luck of a poorly run Weimer, it is the conservatives who mismanaged the economy, and Americans have no one but MAGA to blame for a Greater Depression. That a rat like Yarvin has left the ship is an hopeful sign.
Just to add some more data points for you about the German economy under the Nazis.
The German economy was already recovering under the Weimar Republic but it was slow going, the Nazis were able to more or less ride it and claim credit which when combined with morally shit but economically sensible shit like pushing women out of certain jobs in favor of men made the initial economy relatively stable.Note this is also stupid long term but that’s measured in the terms of decades, also the only reason it worked was because of early 20th familial economics this wouldn’t work in the modern US for example.
Then theres the stripping wealthy minorities of their wealth which allowed them to fuel the war economy they were building but had the obvious effect of hurting the economy long term and scareing educated and experienced professionals away. The death camps come later long after the economy was exclusively propped up by the war and even then they wasted so much resources that it fucked them over even more.
Finally there’s the stripping of resources from conquered territories which was the only reason they were able to continue past Czechoslovakia, the German economy by the time of the invasion of Poland was basically a great wyrm consuming anything and everything it could find to keep itself alive. There’s a reason they slowed down so much invading the Soviets, it’s cause the Soviets scorched earthed everything and Africa had basically no payout.
But yeah the US ain’t got the same circumstances and if even a small civil war kicked off it’d probably be more than enough to kill the feds and half the states at this point. The US simply isn’t robust enough, it can’t fuel itself with revanchists like the Nazis nor can it burn itself to be reborn like Rome. The US is an old empire showing its age and facing a springtime of nations like the Austro-Hungarian empire or the Ottoman empire.
Kill the American Empire, so the MAGA empire can rise. Just like Weimar
And then China, Western Europe, and Russia invade the United States after it initiates massive, aggressive wars to bolster its flailing economy?
And then both sides launch nuclear weapons to end it all?
Is this the accelerationist argument?
Honestly the whole Weimar turning into Nazi Germany thing was kinda a fluke historically speaking. Usually the empire in question implodes, stagnates, or decentralizes usually a mix of atleast two, unless it’s Rome where they will do all three plus a secret forth option and come out the other side.
The Nazis frankly speaking had Alexandrian level plot armor, if anything had gone even slightly different they may have collapsed before even operation Barbarossa.
I think in their case, a righteous anger against the Versailles Treaty fueled a good deal of the effort that they put into becoming a new empire. The rest of the fuel came from stealing from their Jewish and minority citizens, temporarily boosting their coffers. It couldn’t last, since there was no forethought about where to stop, and they destroyed their best financial gurus out of jealousy and stupidity.
Anyhow, I believe that Dogey America cannot handle a civil war. Unlike the Nazi regime’s luck of a poorly run Weimer, it is the conservatives who mismanaged the economy, and Americans have no one but MAGA to blame for a Greater Depression. That a rat like Yarvin has left the ship is an hopeful sign.
Just to add some more data points for you about the German economy under the Nazis.
The German economy was already recovering under the Weimar Republic but it was slow going, the Nazis were able to more or less ride it and claim credit which when combined with morally shit but economically sensible shit like pushing women out of certain jobs in favor of men made the initial economy relatively stable.Note this is also stupid long term but that’s measured in the terms of decades, also the only reason it worked was because of early 20th familial economics this wouldn’t work in the modern US for example.
Then theres the stripping wealthy minorities of their wealth which allowed them to fuel the war economy they were building but had the obvious effect of hurting the economy long term and scareing educated and experienced professionals away. The death camps come later long after the economy was exclusively propped up by the war and even then they wasted so much resources that it fucked them over even more.
Finally there’s the stripping of resources from conquered territories which was the only reason they were able to continue past Czechoslovakia, the German economy by the time of the invasion of Poland was basically a great wyrm consuming anything and everything it could find to keep itself alive. There’s a reason they slowed down so much invading the Soviets, it’s cause the Soviets scorched earthed everything and Africa had basically no payout.
But yeah the US ain’t got the same circumstances and if even a small civil war kicked off it’d probably be more than enough to kill the feds and half the states at this point. The US simply isn’t robust enough, it can’t fuel itself with revanchists like the Nazis nor can it burn itself to be reborn like Rome. The US is an old empire showing its age and facing a springtime of nations like the Austro-Hungarian empire or the Ottoman empire.