What, you think this isn’t real experience? It absolutely is. She’s a true master!
A project manager once told me that she got into programming with MySpace.
A LOT of devs did. was either MySpace, Geocities, or LiveJournal.
Or hacking yahoo chat lol.
Oh gods, the awful things I did in Yahoo chats…
“yahoo chat”
instantly thought of: https://michaelcharm.ytmnd.com/
And ATT Worldnet!
If you’re my age
I started with Spectrum Basic. Everyone’s starts somewhere, and it’s unlikely to be with proper tools in a professional setting.
I started out with Basic on a computer sporting MS DOS, a Pentium 75 and 16 mb ram! Then I continued down the rabbit hole and discovered HTML and that led to the newly invented JavaScript and here I am today programming full time. I can’t believe it’s only 10 years ago I started out in the 90’s. Right? Guys?
Mine was a Timex Sinclair. You got to each of the Basic keywords by hitting a function key and then one of the other keys, which actually helped because you could see them all. And, since I didn’t have any external storage, I got lots of practice writing them.
Is that bad?
No, it is good.
My IT training really started when my dad put parental controls on the family PC…
After we figured out I can use safe mode to bypass the password, he just started locking the computer desk. Learned to pick the lock within a couple days
It got to the point where he straight up would cut the power cord off things. Took less than an hour to learn to strip the wires and splice in a new end. He gave up after that
In hindsight, there may have been signs I would go into security engineering
Ah…the things you can accomplish when you are not being stepped on 24/7 by obligations.
It’s almost like life and work used to be one and the same for our ancestors.
Ever wonder if that was the plan all along?
my folk put a lock in the computer. if it was locked, it prevented the power button from making a circuit. first we learned to pick locks, then we realized just jamming a paper clip in the lock connected the circuit.
cut the power cord off things
…how does that work when you legitimately want or need to use that thing?
I used frontpage to create an iframe to google.com to get around my dad blocking web browsers :)
Little did he know he was raising a future front-end engineer with over a 10+ year career going now haha
Go over to https://neocities.com/ and see some people still are making sites like this. I love peoples creativity.
This is the way.
The video game “Hypnospace Outlaw” also captures a lot of this feeling - being in the late 90’s/early 2000’s stumbling through a series of web rings, find all sorts of hobby projects and obsessions.
Gopherspace also has a lot of this, although it’s text based.
I’m glad you mentioned it. My wife and I loved HO.
omg I i love it!
Believe it or not that is valid training. Hired!
10000% valid experience
<marquee><blink>Under Construction</blink></marquee>And a cool visit counter + rotating e-mail symbol gif.
gif of a skull smoking a cigarette that was made for a different background color
Sign my guestbook
Only after I grab a bite of the giant omelette! - oh no too late, it’s all gone for today…
the visit counter!
Hmm, needs a rainbow separation bar
That reminds me - I’m finally ready to remove that Under Conduction animation from my Geocities page…
I mean honestly, that’s a super high quality website for someone her age to have made by herself in the (presumably) mid-late 90s.
But 18 years ago it was 2007
Well, that reminder just ruined my morning.
Ah yes, the year I graduated high school.
sounds of crackling joints intensifies
If it makes you feel better to have someone more ancient around, my youngest turned ten that year.
But when this meme was made, it was 2000!
How dare you, pointing out completely true things
I mean, it’s customising a Neopets page, but yeah we all learnt to code this way 😂
Pfft no way, I’m learning code via rimworld mods!
Those error and event logs are -ooohhhhh- brutal. But I’m almost to the exposure point where I want to try editing some of the files to fix the problems and see what happens! ;)
It was either that or geocities.
Innit. Simpler times 🥲
I mean every web dev my age I know pretty much all started with geocities so this is valid. that’s how I started. I had a legal pad that was just full of html where I wrote down all the various tags and what they did. Even more devs I know got their start by modifying their MySpace pages.
Wish my old warcraft and starcraft xoom sites were still around so i could laugh at them.
Have you checked the Wayback Machine? My old site is up there somewhere.
Maybe I’m just not using it right or maybe the website names were just too generic, i think one was “starcraft battlezone” or something and i just get seemingly random hits searching for it
i remember my old angelfire website’s directory from when i was 14-19.
Better than almost any website around today
Seriously, I really wish I could use gaiaonline on my phone like I do for Lemmy.
Isn’t gaiaonline written in Java if I recall? Theoretically you could get it running.
Probably, but I don’t have the time to learn programming on top of work and school.
Fair
This is so real. Some kid in 5th grade discovered marquee and told me about it, and it was my favorite thing for a good year or two
Chain those tags, add a couple potatoes; baby, you got a rocket stew going!
Carl Weathers: Master of HTML
I work in web dev today because of what I learned making Neopets profiles. I used to create HTML that others could copy and paste in to their profile and even sold a few custom profiles for a paintbrush or two. It starts with HTML and figuring out how to host images for teenagers and it leads to building enterprise scale websites and applications for multi million dollar companies. I honestly love what I do, and I can thank Neopets for introducing it to me.
I know people miss the highly configurable profile pages of 2000s era social platforms, but all I see here is infinitely free XSS lmao.
According to my parents, I first started playing with (computer) keyboards when I was two. I haven’t stopped since.
When I was nineteen and at my first IT job, they encouraged me to fill in anything relevant in their skill tracking portal. One of the skills listed was “typing.” I marked that that was a skill of mine and entered “17” for years of experience because I didn’t know what else to put.
I was roundly mocked for this.
Why are you booing me?
I’m right!
It got you hired, didn’t it?
At work they joke about how I put Dungeon Master on my resume. It is so staying on there.
One of the other managers at my work brought in a resume he got for everyone to laugh at because the guy had put being a WoW raid leader as part of his skills. I had done a little of it, so I said “Imagine getting 40 people together virtually on headsets. They’re broken into three different main roles, but within those each has different abilities. You have to lead them through an encounter where everyone has to do their part, there might be a lot of coordinated moving around, and some of the mechanics might be complicated. If just one person screws up, all 40 people could die, and you have to start over. Some of the people may never have seen it before. It’s your job to explain what’s going to happen, lead 40 people through it, and keep everyone calm and focused if something goes wrong. How many of our current leaders could do that?”
I think I made the point, but the problem is that very, very few hiring managers are going to know what a raid leader is, and are just going to see it as playing a video game.
More dots!
DMing is great practice for running small group meetings, which are most of my work meetings.
Learning how to keep the meeting on track, synthesizing a bunch of discussion into a coherent flow, knowing when and how to interrupt, paying attention to people who maybe need you to make space for them to interject have all been super useful skills.
This sounds like the posting by an ex drug dealer emphasizing how running a drug empire gave him the skills to prosper in a legitimate career.
Also, though, I agree with your point.
That is so awesome… Please never change…
Technically I was already hired at that point, but otherwise yeah, that was roughly my attitude.
this is not even the level of lying you get from employers, so I see nothing wrong here
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