I couldn’t follow much from news outlets out of Canada.
Rotten Mango takes us through the deep dive. I think anyone with even a passing interest in Hockey, should give this a watch. But, just as the video warns, for those of you who cannot handle topics of sexual assault, please take care and stay safe.
EDIT: Here’s part one.
Honestly, this video is disingenuous.
No one is arguing that it can’t be SA just because they’re athletes, and that had nothing to do with the judge’s ruling.
The judge went through the evidence and it seemed more likely that she consented then not.
This is a better article and was extremely easy to find: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn0qlwnyy70o
I’m I wrong or is it odd she did a consent video after the fact surrounded by a bunch of guys. Like they doesn’t seem like pressure to anyone else.
Maybe but like that there is no way to do anything like this anymore.
This may come as a shock to some people but many women enjoy sex, many women enjoy gangbangs, and a women making a consent nvidronfor a gangbang is something I’ve never heard of before and FFS, shouldn’t be necessary.
But she did anyway and the result on the Internet is: weeeeellll, I think she was forced anyways!
So now what? Do we need a notarized confession of consent before we can have sex?
I get the problem, but I also get that we remove any natural normal human interactions with this.
The world needs more nvidronfor period. I don’t care what people think. If you agree with me or not. Any woman, and any man for that matter, should be able to make as many nvidronfor as they want.
A valid point raised in the video as well. These 19 something year old players allege that the complainant was begging for sex, and everyone felt awkward. No one films to document this remarkable scene that sounds like a porn video.
But, they definitely had time to record a consent video.
What’s wrong with exploring the details of a high profile case involving Hockey players sexually assaulting a woman? I think the videos are well researched, and together form up 3 hours of well thought out detail.
I point out that this is a deep dive into the issue, and you roll up with a BBC article that probably takes 5 minutes to read.
Also, I watched the videos, and there’s discussion about how badly the case was handled from all fronts; and, there’s treatment on how netizens have some consensus that there was very little likelihood that the charges would result in convictions because of how the laws are.
I won’t go over all the highlights. A few points raised for me were:
Criminal law standards vs morality standards - I felt that the video also distinguished the issue of the court’s formal finding of guilt or innocence based on a standard of beyond a reasonable doubt. They even went over the moral issues that arose when exploring the culture of sexism in the Hockey players online “bible”, consent, and even the pinch points on evidence that were in favour of either the Hockey players and the complainant.
What’s society comfortable with issues of team sports and toxic behaviour? We’re being reminded about the ugly side of Hockey culture and whether we want these players to be flaunting their wealth and power around in this way. Or should they pay a price? Who should trust these roving packs of guys, travelling from town to town, grabbing at booze and women, then rushing home to their well compensated handlers at the first sign of trouble?
What credibility does Hockey Canada have? An organization that’s supposed to be hand holding these guys, and upholding some semblance of a honour/conduct system? There’s clips of the players making alleged statements to Hockey Canada for conduct over the allegations of sexual assault, and their statements are not even consistent with what ends up out during the criminal proceedings.
its a tricky case just on that consent video alone. part of me says she consented, another part of me says she was forced to do it. and i do take into account of hockeys history of things around a topic such as this. Personally, if i was given a gun to my head to choose, id say she was pressured into doing the consent video.