Hey! This is where I found out I dont really like multi day mountain hikes while sleeping in shared rooms :-). Was still amazing though, A+ panoramic views and lush hidden meadows.
If you come to the Cascades in Washington, please don’t stand in our meadows like this. These plants do NOT survive being stepped on and you’re compressing the soil, preventing regrowth. If everyone walks in the meadows they will vanish forever. There is no natural mechanism to uncompress soil.
I never understood why people are annoyed by tourists until I moved to the mountains…
The level of cope people will produce in order to refute my request to not destroy fragile meadows is nuts. I thought I was being polite. And I’m right.
Once the meadow is trampled and the soil is compacted, and all the native flowers are gone, go ahead and plant some plantains there up on that mountain in the compacted soil. Problem solved?
No, earthworms cannot undo the damage from soil compression caused by humans. There are ancient trails that have been found by archaeologists that haven’t been used in thousands of years and yet are still compressed. Human foot traffic is incredibly destructive.
The rule for hiking is that you hike and camp on durable surfaces only. Meadows are extremely fragile. There are visible rocks in this photo right behind this person, which they could be walking on. This is a selfish thing to do.
Fair enough. The way people are treating me for advocating against the destruction of nature is fucking disgusting. People are taking your point to mean that it’s totally fine to trample meadows because worms will fix it and I’m an asshole for saying anything negative about this person fucking up a meadow for a photo.
To be fair, you do come across quite like the Fritz (saying this as a German): “Das ist VERBOTEN!”
A somewhat calmer approach to a quite harmless topic might get you more reach in terms of raising awareness.
I am quite sure that the problem is only ever in balance / the mass of people walking in a particular place. We are monkeys on this planet, and it is absolutely okay to walk through nature, much more so than flatten a forest to build a road.that we can walk on. People should maybe just refrain from walking off the paths in nature reserves / fragile ecosystems.
On a flowery meadow somewhere in the middle of a long hike? I don’t see the problem.
It really depends on the elevation. There are so.e places that are so fragile that it is very bad to step on anything not durable, like they are saying. But if you are down in the valley, especially in the floodlands, it is not going to hurt long term to frolick in a meadow.
I was untrained for this and we did not take any extra time to get accustomed to the height. I live around 0m height normally. I did not notice any difference in breathing or being extra drained because of it, maybe we kept our pace low enough?
Hey! This is where I found out I dont really like multi day mountain hikes while sleeping in shared rooms :-). Was still amazing though, A+ panoramic views and lush hidden meadows.
Me in one of those meadows!
Adorable. We’d be homies for certain.
Lovely photo, you have a very kind smile. Travel well my friend!
If you come to the Cascades in Washington, please don’t stand in our meadows like this. These plants do NOT survive being stepped on and you’re compressing the soil, preventing regrowth. If everyone walks in the meadows they will vanish forever. There is no natural mechanism to uncompress soil.
I never understood why people are annoyed by tourists until I moved to the mountains…
Earthworms.
Also Plantago and some other plants…
The level of cope people will produce in order to refute my request to not destroy fragile meadows is nuts. I thought I was being polite. And I’m right.
Once the meadow is trampled and the soil is compacted, and all the native flowers are gone, go ahead and plant some plantains there up on that mountain in the compacted soil. Problem solved?
No, earthworms cannot undo the damage from soil compression caused by humans. There are ancient trails that have been found by archaeologists that haven’t been used in thousands of years and yet are still compressed. Human foot traffic is incredibly destructive.
The rule for hiking is that you hike and camp on durable surfaces only. Meadows are extremely fragile. There are visible rocks in this photo right behind this person, which they could be walking on. This is a selfish thing to do.
I did not correct you (nor did I voice an objection) on any point other than one :p
Fair enough. The way people are treating me for advocating against the destruction of nature is fucking disgusting. People are taking your point to mean that it’s totally fine to trample meadows because worms will fix it and I’m an asshole for saying anything negative about this person fucking up a meadow for a photo.
Ugh. Sometimes Lemmy is exactly like reddit.
To be fair, you do come across quite like the Fritz (saying this as a German): “Das ist VERBOTEN!” A somewhat calmer approach to a quite harmless topic might get you more reach in terms of raising awareness.
I am quite sure that the problem is only ever in balance / the mass of people walking in a particular place. We are monkeys on this planet, and it is absolutely okay to walk through nature, much more so than flatten a forest to build a road.that we can walk on. People should maybe just refrain from walking off the paths in nature reserves / fragile ecosystems.
On a flowery meadow somewhere in the middle of a long hike? I don’t see the problem.
It really depends on the elevation. There are so.e places that are so fragile that it is very bad to step on anything not durable, like they are saying. But if you are down in the valley, especially in the floodlands, it is not going to hurt long term to frolick in a meadow.
Just for this comment I will be flying to Washington and will compress a meadow.
You are a piece of shit.
Next time don’t bring up Washington meadows on a post not about Washington meadows.
How was adjustment to the elevation? I go backpacking a lot and that looks amazing.
I was untrained for this and we did not take any extra time to get accustomed to the height. I live around 0m height normally. I did not notice any difference in breathing or being extra drained because of it, maybe we kept our pace low enough?
Damn, even Frodo lived life at 1m height
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