edit: The art is to be resolute without weapons, strategic, smart, large-scale and unpredictable. A national strike would work better yeah but is tricky ig lots of americans need their salary too but you can set up a strike fund for those people perhaps? idk and supporting organizations that protect independent branches of power, independent judges, iguess, protectdemocracy.org for example ig
stop telling people to start shooting. You think its as simple as one person killing a ICE agent and they pack it up and go home. it will take more than that to push back the issues going on
Its what MAGA wants. If ICE starts getting shot then Trump will send in the guard.
Its a waiting game. Maybe we can have another election, maybe it could be fair, maybe the dems will take two branches and start impeaching and/or prosecuting. Not likely … the dems probably sold out.
Why wont MAGA learn to assimilate in to the broader culture? They come to us demanding we do things their way instead of learning our way. They want our taxes, attention, and opportunities but what do they give back? They dont create our art, movies, music, shows, books, poems, or science. They dont generate positive revenue in their states. They dont know our constitution or our laws. They wont respect our flag or our troops active or retired. They refuse to pay taxes. They spread disease on purpose. They have the lowest education rates. They have the highest violent crime rates including gun deaths and domestic abuse. They have higher divorce rates and the poverty rate is unreal.
They sort of tried to blend in, camouflage, they rolled along with it, and in fits and starts they threw tantrums about not being allowed to say the (bigoted) things on their mind without being made to feel wrong or looked down on for it.
Then along came Trump and so many of these muted bullies, racists, misogynists, and homophones saw that someone could sa6 those things publicly and not only not be shouted down, but also gain support.
They rallied behind the big bully, because even though he hits them too and takes their lunch money, he makes them feel accepted for their bigotry instead of chastened. Not to mention, they now have a big public banner for their different tribalistic hatreds, a large group that can differ in individual views but generally doesn’t cast aspersions over belittling and dehumanizing people. The club doesn’t all have to agree on anything except that voicing your hateful feelings is acceptable or even admirable.
All of this is stuff that’s been stirring for so long, and of course Trump is just the person who managed to light the fire without getting buried for it. Yet here he is, wielding the power to enrich himself and his cohort, protect himself from punishment for his many past and present crimes, and have people hang off his every word on the planet’s biggest stage. What more could a greedy, narcissistic rapist want?
• If I do nothing, MAYBE others will resolve all this somehow, or maybe not and it just keeps gets worse for the foreseeable future.
• If I do something, maybe some good comes of it in the short- or long-term. Probably I will suffer excessive consequences, and most likely the propaganda machine uses it to fan the flames and accellerate the power grabs even more.
Either way could bear positive results. Either way could lead to things getting worse.
But certainly important elemens are not giving up, offering support where and to whom you can, standing up when it counts, and fighting (nonviolently) when you can.
I understand that opinions differ on if and when violent action should be used, and I’m not wise enough to offer any endorsement on that topic. I’m also not really here for any response to the effect of “obviously violence is the only moral option when lives and communities are threatened” or any other conversation about where to draw that line in the sand.
So buy a rifle, find a place to practice with it, and practice every day you can afford to. The best thing right now is to start preparing. Is your pantry stocked for at least a month? Is your water supply dependent on electricity? Right now is time to be building community networks, designating roles and leadership, defining goals and abilities, and practicing marksmanship. If you think you’re going to be able to carry on a guerilla insurgency and also lay down suppressive fire, you’ll be hearing your rifle click by the end of the week. Learn to make quick, accurate shots, and leaving the area immediately. Practice pop up shots, limit scope time, learn to scope with both eyes open. I can’t help but assume so many of the pudding heads screaming for Americans to start killing officers have very little or zero firearms experience and absolutely no tactical or combat experience outside of COD
Most gun owners don’t carry them around 24/7 and probably .0001% of gun owners are actively looking for shoot outs with federal agents at any given time 🤣. They are not arresting gun owners currently do that’s why the lack of resistance id guess.
A cop without a warrant is just an armed trespasser.
Public accountability and punishment for the culprit is much more effective than just start shooting them, of course. But for decades, some Americans kept claiming they needed guns to defend themselves against a tyrannical government, they’ve been waving “don’t tread on me” flags, and here’s the government treading on people, and there’s not a peep from the gun lobby.
Well for one reason they haven’t come to my home yet. They seem to be going after mostly defenseless people with overwhelming force. I’m assuming they’re fucking cowards and they’re not putting themselves in danger intentionally.
I mean I get it and I see your point - if you’re going to get arrested/shot/killed anyways might as well go down guns blazing and hopefully taking a nazi with you.
The reality is americans don’t want to do that. none are actually willing to die for their country.
edit: The art is to be resolute without weapons, strategic, smart, large-scale and unpredictable. A national strike would work better yeah but is tricky ig lots of americans need their salary too but you can set up a strike fund for those people perhaps? idk and supporting organizations that protect independent branches of power, independent judges, iguess, protectdemocracy.org for example ig
stop telling people to start shooting. You think its as simple as one person killing a ICE agent and they pack it up and go home. it will take more than that to push back the issues going on
At least you saved someone then…
hmm…fair point.
As if the detainee is going to get away clean forever after their arresting officer gets blasted. PuddingHelmet is a wildly accurate username.
but NO no u are right be forceful without weapons best … to help more people in the end than just the one idk
Its what MAGA wants. If ICE starts getting shot then Trump will send in the guard.
Its a waiting game. Maybe we can have another election, maybe it could be fair, maybe the dems will take two branches and start impeaching and/or prosecuting. Not likely … the dems probably sold out.
I’m so fucking tired of being fearful of what MAGA wants.
They already have what they want!
Why wont MAGA learn to assimilate in to the broader culture? They come to us demanding we do things their way instead of learning our way. They want our taxes, attention, and opportunities but what do they give back? They dont create our art, movies, music, shows, books, poems, or science. They dont generate positive revenue in their states. They dont know our constitution or our laws. They wont respect our flag or our troops active or retired. They refuse to pay taxes. They spread disease on purpose. They have the lowest education rates. They have the highest violent crime rates including gun deaths and domestic abuse. They have higher divorce rates and the poverty rate is unreal.
It’s a religion being MAGA.
They sort of tried to blend in, camouflage, they rolled along with it, and in fits and starts they threw tantrums about not being allowed to say the (bigoted) things on their mind without being made to feel wrong or looked down on for it.
Then along came Trump and so many of these muted bullies, racists, misogynists, and homophones saw that someone could sa6 those things publicly and not only not be shouted down, but also gain support.
They rallied behind the big bully, because even though he hits them too and takes their lunch money, he makes them feel accepted for their bigotry instead of chastened. Not to mention, they now have a big public banner for their different tribalistic hatreds, a large group that can differ in individual views but generally doesn’t cast aspersions over belittling and dehumanizing people. The club doesn’t all have to agree on anything except that voicing your hateful feelings is acceptable or even admirable.
All of this is stuff that’s been stirring for so long, and of course Trump is just the person who managed to light the fire without getting buried for it. Yet here he is, wielding the power to enrich himself and his cohort, protect himself from punishment for his many past and present crimes, and have people hang off his every word on the planet’s biggest stage. What more could a greedy, narcissistic rapist want?
The funny thing about having what you want … you decide you want more.
Noone ever stops because they have what they want.
It just sucks being torn between
• If I do nothing, MAYBE others will resolve all this somehow, or maybe not and it just keeps gets worse for the foreseeable future.
• If I do something, maybe some good comes of it in the short- or long-term. Probably I will suffer excessive consequences, and most likely the propaganda machine uses it to fan the flames and accellerate the power grabs even more.
Either way could bear positive results. Either way could lead to things getting worse.
But certainly important elemens are not giving up, offering support where and to whom you can, standing up when it counts, and fighting (nonviolently) when you can.
I understand that opinions differ on if and when violent action should be used, and I’m not wise enough to offer any endorsement on that topic. I’m also not really here for any response to the effect of “obviously violence is the only moral option when lives and communities are threatened” or any other conversation about where to draw that line in the sand.
So buy a rifle, find a place to practice with it, and practice every day you can afford to. The best thing right now is to start preparing. Is your pantry stocked for at least a month? Is your water supply dependent on electricity? Right now is time to be building community networks, designating roles and leadership, defining goals and abilities, and practicing marksmanship. If you think you’re going to be able to carry on a guerilla insurgency and also lay down suppressive fire, you’ll be hearing your rifle click by the end of the week. Learn to make quick, accurate shots, and leaving the area immediately. Practice pop up shots, limit scope time, learn to scope with both eyes open. I can’t help but assume so many of the pudding heads screaming for Americans to start killing officers have very little or zero firearms experience and absolutely no tactical or combat experience outside of COD
Yeah true better to be forceful without weapons, strategic, organized, smart, large-scale and unpredictable.
Most gun owners don’t carry them around 24/7 and probably .0001% of gun owners are actively looking for shoot outs with federal agents at any given time 🤣. They are not arresting gun owners currently do that’s why the lack of resistance id guess.
A cop without a warrant is just an armed trespasser.
Public accountability and punishment for the culprit is much more effective than just start shooting them, of course. But for decades, some Americans kept claiming they needed guns to defend themselves against a tyrannical government, they’ve been waving “don’t tread on me” flags, and here’s the government treading on people, and there’s not a peep from the gun lobby.
Well for one reason they haven’t come to my home yet. They seem to be going after mostly defenseless people with overwhelming force. I’m assuming they’re fucking cowards and they’re not putting themselves in danger intentionally.
I mean I get it and I see your point - if you’re going to get arrested/shot/killed anyways might as well go down guns blazing and hopefully taking a nazi with you.
The reality is americans don’t want to do that. none are actually willing to die for their country.