And animal testing regardless of the benefit humans may receive is morally wrong.
You can say whatever you want, but just because you feel it really hard doesnt mean it will be convincing to other people.
In this particular case, I think animal testing is moral as fuck, because why in the fuck would I possibly value animal lives even close to that of a human or myself.
Being alive kills other things, nature is competition. From bacteria and viruses in your body constantly being killed, to animals in the food supply (even veggies and croplands have pest control), just living in a safe community relies on the killing of other life: removing dangerous animals from the community, keeping pests out of food stores, keeping the water clean (kills water based life)
The phone you are using is at the end of a very complicated supply chain that mines resources from the earth, which requires killing animals… Moving resources across the earth, which requires killing animals (fish hit by boats, animals run over by cars, birds hit by trucks, pest control in all the production and storage facilities), etc.
Humans, particularly those in modern societies, live outside of natural order. We don’t contribute anything to it and just use it up. We slaughter millions of animals that we first rape to keep manufacturing them like their products. The animals were experiment in often never see the sky or feel the earth. You matter more than them?
Its a wonder you think you’ll convert anyone just by sounding batshit insane.
I’m human. You think I would think my own species matters less than a different one? No other species thinks differently, why would we feel any different, especially given our massively different capabilities thought wise?
What other species kills at the level humans do? The shear fact you mention our capabilities proves my point; we do horrible things when we have the capability to choose not to.
So why are you spouting off about it? To what end?
What other species kills at the level humans do? The shear fact you mention our capabilities proves my point; we do horrible things when we have the capability to choose not to.
This could apply for so many things, but not testing for medical purposes. Thats you being irrationally idealistic past the point of stupidity.
Cancer can’t be cured because it isn’t 1 thing. And animal testing regardless of the benefit humans may receive is morally wrong.
There are many types of cancer with very high remission rates after treatment.
Treatment isn’t a cure.
You can say whatever you want, but just because you feel it really hard doesnt mean it will be convincing to other people.
In this particular case, I think animal testing is moral as fuck, because why in the fuck would I possibly value animal lives even close to that of a human or myself.
Why do you matter more than any other animal?
Your philosophy is antithetical to existence.
Being alive kills other things, nature is competition. From bacteria and viruses in your body constantly being killed, to animals in the food supply (even veggies and croplands have pest control), just living in a safe community relies on the killing of other life: removing dangerous animals from the community, keeping pests out of food stores, keeping the water clean (kills water based life)
The phone you are using is at the end of a very complicated supply chain that mines resources from the earth, which requires killing animals… Moving resources across the earth, which requires killing animals (fish hit by boats, animals run over by cars, birds hit by trucks, pest control in all the production and storage facilities), etc.
Because I care about me more than any other animal.
If someone tried to kill you, would you just let them or not?
Any sane answer says you value you more than someone else.
Its crazy you find this opinion applied to animals to be offensive.
Humans, particularly those in modern societies, live outside of natural order. We don’t contribute anything to it and just use it up. We slaughter millions of animals that we first rape to keep manufacturing them like their products. The animals were experiment in often never see the sky or feel the earth. You matter more than them?
Yeah, I’m the crazy one…
Yup, that sounds crazy AF.
Its a wonder you think you’ll convert anyone just by sounding batshit insane.
I’m human. You think I would think my own species matters less than a different one? No other species thinks differently, why would we feel any different, especially given our massively different capabilities thought wise?
I know I won’t change anyone’s mind.
What other species kills at the level humans do? The shear fact you mention our capabilities proves my point; we do horrible things when we have the capability to choose not to.
So why are you spouting off about it? To what end?
This could apply for so many things, but not testing for medical purposes. Thats you being irrationally idealistic past the point of stupidity.
So what, we just test things in a dish and then hope it works in a complex organism? Because the other alternative is human testing.
We do like every other animal on the planet and die.
The funny thing about this very dumb take, is if the people who believed it followed through, the idea would eventually die out.
Followed through with what? Talk about dumb takes.
Dying vs using medicines that had any animal testing involved in their creation.
This wasn’t particularly complex, but maybe complex for someone with your take.
You have fun with that, I’ll take the medicine.