They won’t. I love Fairphone but hey have dogshit firmware. The fairphone 5 had a bug for quite some time where it showed that it had a audio jack. It doesn’t. GrapheneOS seems to want to focus on supporting one kind of device and supporting it well. They also plan to partner with a big OEM, which Fairphone is not.
It is annoying seeing the more hardcore GrapheneOS users that only ever answer people that ask about using a custom ROM act like it is an actual option for people who can’t justify getting a whole new phone (though I want to say that I am not saying that is what you are doing, just so many comments on other threads). I am waiting for Google’s anti-user stuff to eventually hit Pixel phones. If Graphene only bothers with Pixel and doesn’t try to help with getting other devices working. Then all their effort will be made pointless whenever Google further locks things down.
Though if the Graphene folks do somehow make a major deal with an OEM (and keeps all the user control on the devices). Then I will be more than happy to eat my crow. At that point, I just hope that the devices are as flagship as the current Pixel phones. Having mid to low tier phones will be nice too, but I want to get something that doesn’t feel like a downgrade out of the box (or a few months later). But I will need to look more into their efforts to partner with OEM(s) to see how that comes along.
Well, I’m not saying your shouldn’t use another android distribution. Neither are other GrapheneOS users, those who aren’t in a cult at least, which ironically the users are sometimes but the devs not really.
I think where the confusion lies, is that GrapheneOS is simply the strongest positioned and best phone OS for what it is trying to achieve. If you want a phone that nobody can crack into, that gives you the highest level of privacy possible, you will choose GrapheneOS.
But that’s for the same kind of people that would run an 8 year old laptop with Coreboot and QubesOS. Not everybody wants that kind of control.
For people that did not require the best, DivestOS was a good choice, since they did a lot of the things GrapheneOS did and more, where I’m making the case that neither was really better for their use case than the other, since DivestOS had the goal of broader device support.
All in all, I think GrapheneOS gets a bad rep. There is a reason why state officials use it. Why It’s the most praised in the security business. They can’t just adjust to your needs, that’s not what their project is for. It’s for the absolute best in security and privacy. You can just get another distro so stop being do mad.
And obviously, when they can not continue on Pixel phones, they will choose another.
Ah that’s a bummer. Pixel makes the most sense as long as they continue to be easily unlocked. But it would be nice to have a more ethical/sustainable hardware option with privacy.
You can have privacy if your threat model doesn’t require you to be a high profile target.
Seuciry is important for privacy, sure but if you are willing to give up some of your security, lineageos is a good option. Sad that DivestOS is no longer around.
iodeOS is around, not as secure as Graphene but its google free. LineageOS can also be used without GApps or with MicroG. Theres also a project forking DivestOS but i cant remember if it was axpos or voltageos. Calyx, might come back lol.
Ive heard people on FPs usually have a better time on LOS or iodeOS than on stock also.
I wonder if Graphene plans to support them because then it will absolutely be my next device
They won’t. I love Fairphone but hey have dogshit firmware. The fairphone 5 had a bug for quite some time where it showed that it had a audio jack. It doesn’t. GrapheneOS seems to want to focus on supporting one kind of device and supporting it well. They also plan to partner with a big OEM, which Fairphone is not.
It is annoying seeing the more hardcore GrapheneOS users that only ever answer people that ask about using a custom ROM act like it is an actual option for people who can’t justify getting a whole new phone (though I want to say that I am not saying that is what you are doing, just so many comments on other threads). I am waiting for Google’s anti-user stuff to eventually hit Pixel phones. If Graphene only bothers with Pixel and doesn’t try to help with getting other devices working. Then all their effort will be made pointless whenever Google further locks things down.
Though if the Graphene folks do somehow make a major deal with an OEM (and keeps all the user control on the devices). Then I will be more than happy to eat my crow. At that point, I just hope that the devices are as flagship as the current Pixel phones. Having mid to low tier phones will be nice too, but I want to get something that doesn’t feel like a downgrade out of the box (or a few months later). But I will need to look more into their efforts to partner with OEM(s) to see how that comes along.
Well, I’m not saying your shouldn’t use another android distribution. Neither are other GrapheneOS users, those who aren’t in a cult at least, which ironically the users are sometimes but the devs not really.
I think where the confusion lies, is that GrapheneOS is simply the strongest positioned and best phone OS for what it is trying to achieve. If you want a phone that nobody can crack into, that gives you the highest level of privacy possible, you will choose GrapheneOS.
But that’s for the same kind of people that would run an 8 year old laptop with Coreboot and QubesOS. Not everybody wants that kind of control.
For people that did not require the best, DivestOS was a good choice, since they did a lot of the things GrapheneOS did and more, where I’m making the case that neither was really better for their use case than the other, since DivestOS had the goal of broader device support.
All in all, I think GrapheneOS gets a bad rep. There is a reason why state officials use it. Why It’s the most praised in the security business. They can’t just adjust to your needs, that’s not what their project is for. It’s for the absolute best in security and privacy. You can just get another distro so stop being do mad.
And obviously, when they can not continue on Pixel phones, they will choose another.
Ah that’s a bummer. Pixel makes the most sense as long as they continue to be easily unlocked. But it would be nice to have a more ethical/sustainable hardware option with privacy.
You can have privacy if your threat model doesn’t require you to be a high profile target.
Seuciry is important for privacy, sure but if you are willing to give up some of your security, lineageos is a good option. Sad that DivestOS is no longer around.
iodeOS is around, not as secure as Graphene but its google free. LineageOS can also be used without GApps or with MicroG. Theres also a project forking DivestOS but i cant remember if it was axpos or voltageos. Calyx, might come back lol.
Ive heard people on FPs usually have a better time on LOS or iodeOS than on stock also.