A deal to end the 41-day government shutdown is running into turbulence, thanks to a single Senate objection: Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.). Senate Republican and Democratic leaders say they need to resolve Paul’s objection to a provision in the government funding package before they can accelerate consideration of the bill. The provision would restrict the unregulated sale of intoxicating hemp-based products.
“Delta 8”? What the fuck? Do they mean “weed”?
it’s a different form of psychoactive compound, it’s a THC-like compound derived from Hemp. It’s not the exact same molecular structure so it’s technically unregulated.
I have only heard mixed reviews and reactions to the stuff, so I avoid it like all untested, unknown head-shop and gas-station drugs barely skirting the law.
edit: sources have told me that the bill’s wording would allow them to absolutely decimate the legal weed market because the wording allows them to ban the sales of anything that even resembles a THC molecule. (Nobody tell them about what your brain produces or they will ban heads.)
Why spend so much effort deriving this diet-THC from hemp instead of just selling actual cannabis?
Because even in states where recreational cannabis is legal, it’s still highly restricted and taxed, that’s why there’s usually only limited numbers of dispensaries and they have to follow pretty strict city guidelines, and still cannot be purchased with credit cards or bank cards because it’s still a federally controlled substance even if the state legalizes it. Which is also why cannabis products can’t normally be shipped over state lines. Cannabis is still giant headache despite being highly profitable.
Meanwhile, this shit basically doesn’t even exist in the eyes of the federal government, it can be sold anywhere and bought with any currency, it hasn’t even been studied enough to get scheduled and managed, and this is also partially due to the fact that every time one chemical compound gets scheduled, a couple more slight variants pop up. It’s almost like people really, really want to get high and the more you try to stop people from getting high, the worse the problem gets.
Sounds like the long arm of the law should just have let the invisible hand of the market do the talking
Because Delta 8 is federally legal. Cannabis isn’t.
Since no one has mentioned it yet:
Delta-8 has a weaker binding affinity to cannabinoid receptors than delta-9, meaning it’s less potent per unit dose, but also harder to green out on.
because I can order it through the mail in Georgia without having to fly to New York every couple of months.
Thank you for the education on it!
You’re welcome, and I wanted to add that it’s unfolding right now that the bill also is worded in a way that it can mean the ban of all sales of anything even resembling a THC molecule, which would wreck the legal market in states that have it decriminalized, and it may be because the alcohol companies are threatened by rising legal weed sales. (McConnel introduced this anti-THC amendment and he’s known to have deep ties to alcohol lobbies, and alcohol sales in the US are flagging hard since decriminalization of weed.)
of course its mitch mcconnel pushing this.
I work in the booze biz and the narrative that cannabis is killing our business is not that true. Most of it is price increases, the realization that “healthy consumption” of alcohol is bullshit, and a complete failure of our industry to market the products correctly.
With wine and beer we should be reminding people that drinking with friends is literally one of the most common things in history. It’s a nice time even if it isn’t the most healthy choice. The important thing is to not make it habitual.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/693362/drinking-rate-new-low-alcohol-concerns-surge.aspx
I don’t know if anyone is saying it’s “killing” the business, but if your bosses are telling you that it hasn’t been harmed, they are lying to you. This is normal, even in a company you love, your bosses will lie to their employees about the state of the business, right up until the day they suddenly surprise you and say sales have crashed and they have to cut back their workforce, it’s as normal in business as business itself.
And nobody is moralizing anything here, so I don’t get the defensiveness, if people rather do cannabis than alcohol, that’s a reflection of social trends towards a substance that is less harmful and less apt to cause hangovers and regrettable texts. I’m just talking about what others are reporting.
I’ve never had an issue with it. It’s helped my anxiety and if they take it from me, I’m gonna be right pissed. I can’t smoke weed since my 3 stints of Covid
Like I said, it’s mixed. I’ve heard some people found it like a miracle drug that cured their anxiety, helps them sleep, fixed the cracks in their driveway and straightened their teeth. I’ve heard other stories of waking nightmares and seizure-like reactions. I take it all with a few shovels full of salt.
Covid is a nightmare virus that changes your brain and body structure as well, no surprise hearing how it changes how your body reacts to different drugs.
For me it’s basically what CBD claims to be.
Exactly
Can you do edibles?
Yeah, if I can get ahold of them
it’s synthetic weed, Delta-8 being slightly less psycho-active than standard Delta-9 which now can also be synthesized from CBD. -I actually agree with Rand Paul on this issue even though i’ve had some truly awful experiences with these products. There’s no real QC safety checks to ensure that not only is what they say is in there is true, but also to avoid precursor chemical contamination in the final products. Some people will point out the QR codes linking to lab reports, but I suspect they never check them because the few times I did, the lab reports were for a different product with a different name dated six months ago… -My point is there should be some basic common sense regulation around quality but an outright ban or restriction is stupid.
You should know that there are also federally legal Delta-9 THC products that will get wrapped up in this ban, as well as probably most CBD products. Would be a huge blow to the legal hemp industry.
Delta8 is shit quasi-leagal substances that aren’t the same as actual Cannabis. It’s stuff that should “probably” be illegal, but that isn’t why it was included in this bill. It’s a just a backdoor ban for legal weed.
This legislation will also kill any federally legal Delta-9 THC products like edibles or drinks, and might kill a lot of CBD products as well.