• Plopp@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Logitech is a good name for computer peripherals. Logi sounds like underwear or something.

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    You can see the logos getting worse, in my opinion. I absolutely hate the trend of oversimplifying logos.

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      Eh I would agree but the first one is a weak sub par logo regardless, even if the trend didn’t change it deserved and update. I think the middle one is inoffensive and good, the third one is very grandpa learning the gangnam style dance. Today.

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        It’s such a same though to throw away that uniqueness. It would have been interesting to instead have a skilled firm do an evolution of the original.

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        deserved and update

        Ok, I really don’t want this to come across as anything other than curious so please know I just genuinely want to know.

        Was “and” deliberately put there or is it just a typo? I see this quite often online and would love to know if I’m seeing a change in language or maybe a regional difference or if it’s just autocorrect.

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    I wish Logitech and all the other big peripheral companies would lose the software. They usually make your keyboard extremely annoying colors unless you install their crap

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      8 months ago

      their software is also super bloated. How hard can it be to write a mouse driver? 1 GB for a mouse driver???

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        The thing is that 1GB of a “driver” contains about 20 MB of actual mouse driver, but also all the drivers for all their other mice, keyboards, webcams, joysticks, driving wheels, loudspeakers (but why?), headphones, etc.

        I like they consolidated their Logi Hub software, but it’s HEAVY.

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      When I noted that Logitech started downloading, installing and running a service called Logitech Download Assistant without asking just by pluggning in a mice I realized I had to drop them.

      Drivers are fine to push through Windows Update, programs are not.

      I am on Xtrfy mice and Ducky keyboards these days, both are excellent and require zero programs to use

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      I swear the side-scrollling wheel on the MX Master is set backwards to how everyone wants it specifically to get people to download the software.

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      Yup! I installed OpenRGB the conpletely uninstalled all my razer and logitech software. Loose a few macros, but i can make AutoHotKey scripts if I need to.

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          As a separate download or built in? Any idea if it works with redragon stuff? Redragon software is fucking awful, only nice thing about it is that I almost never have to use it.

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            You have to download it and put it in the plugins folder. There’s also a list of compatible peripherals on the website.

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              Do you happen to have a link or some kind of point in the right direction? I couldn’t find any macro plugins for openrgb on their site, and a web search is proving unhelpful as well.

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                  No worries. It’s not a huge deal to use redragon software, and I poked around a bit with openrgb and set up some cool goodies from the plugins they do have (most notably setting an rgb light in my Mobo to scale with my GPU temps. Totally unnecessary, but very cool!)

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      I’ve avoided RGB-lit stuff for everything else, except for my wireless headset. A Logitech G733. In every other respect I love it, but it has bright lights on the front that drain the battery and reflect in my glasses. They default to constantly changing random colors until host software sends a command to control the light. Thankfully there exist tools to control it on Linux (HeadsetControl) but adjustments reset on every power cycle.

      The mouse in OP (M510, I’ve had a few of them myself) doesn’t have those problems. There does exist specialized software to manage device pairing for the included “unifying receiver” but it comes by default pre-paired so the software is only particularly helpful for the niche use case of having other wireless logitech devices and wanting to save USB ports by making them all share one receiver.

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        I got a keychron a while back which has been great and doesn’t need proprietary software to program it. I like some pretty lights on my keyboard but that’s it. Not a fan of PC lights or anything else like that

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      Some accessories have onboard storage so you can just download an app one time and then delete it.

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    8 months ago

    I’ve also been buying this same mouse. Once I saw a new one in the store and went, “Wow! They have it in dark gray!”, and bought it. Turns out the old one at my computer was already dark gray.

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    From somewhat detailed and recognizable, to just the name, to not even the name. Their next logo will be a single “L”, not stylized in any way.

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    The logo/brand devolved, IMO.

    Coincidentally(?), their software devolved just as much!

    I don’t want to install multiple applications to just use a mouse.

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    8 months ago

    Logitech M510, the most recent two are 2020 and 2022. The first is probably circa 2012

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      I’m a Logitech M720 man myself. I’ve bought at least three over the last few years. They seem to stop working within two years.

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        G502 here. I only had to replace it once due to me spilling Guinness all over the poor thing!

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        I use a larger mouse on my desktop (actually have pretty big hands), but I like the small size for carrying around in a laptop bag.

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        Soldering in new switches doesn’t take very long on Logitech mice. I gave the last one I had replaced under warranty to my son and he soldered in a replacement in about 15 minutes and hasn’t had any issues with it since.

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        Same here. The M720 is the best general purpose they’ve come up with. Now they need to improve it.

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    sadly I’m not gonna buy Logitech mice anymore until they finally fix the damn double click problem that happens after a year of ownership.

    On a side note, anyone have any sub 50 dollar mouse recommendations?

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      if you have a bit of patience, you can fix a chattering microswitch pretty easily:

      Invidious // Youtube

      its for a logitech mouse, but the procedure is the same for all those microswitches, i got 3 more years out of my roccat mouse (which was in very heavy use and died of another reason)

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        Exactly. It’s an easy fix. I haven’t had a mouse break in the last 10 years. The coatings start falling off before the clicks are a problem any more.

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          That’s why I retired my MX Ergo. It’s coated in some kind of rubber that broke down. I don’t know, mine might just have cancer and all the others in the world are fine, but the thing is disgusting to touch and I’m not paying $100 for a new one.

      • LiveLM@lemmy.zip
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        Does this also work for the side buttons?
        One of mine started double clicking on my G502 🥲

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        Yes, my Logitech mouse, which is great it every other regard, had the left button give out after about of year of very heavy use (StarCraft, not that my APM is that high). With the addition of some superglue and a piece of plastic I’ve been using it for 4 more years, still going strong.

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      Yeah, Hyperx pulsefire. Got mine for $20 and it’s been great. I did have a g602 but wanted a lighter and wired mouse, and decided to go cheap instead of more expensive like I normally would.

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      Ah the old double click issue. So it’s mainly the logis that do that ? I thought i was just imagining it. But like others have said I do not have any of those issues with the other brands of mice. Now if I can just find the right silent mouse…

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      I use Logitech M570 trackballs, and sometimes the left mouse button starts to misbehave…so I take it apart, desolder the switch, solder in a new one and it’s fixed. Problem seems to be the microswitches wear out. Why replace a $35 mouse when i could replace a $0.40 switch?

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        I suppose you’re asking rhetorically, but I’m gonna blunder though this rant anyway. I applaud your frugality and self reliance though.

        Avoiding the hassle of disassembling delicate plastics parts, reassembling a potentially complicated and finicky device, and soldering (and resoldering) a small switch on a small PCB or wire correctly and safely is worth at least $34 to 99% of the market. Hell, I’m confident I could do it (badly) and have (admittedly the cheapest version of) the necessary tools, but finding the correct replacement switch still isn’t worth the hassle (to me) if mine were to break.

        Love my M570, btw. I abuse it on a daily basis with excessive clicks, but so far the worst I’ve had to do was clean some lint out of it. If it were a $70 device instead of a $35 device, I might feel differently. But at that, price point I’d probably expect better and replace it with a different brand.

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          I’ve got 4 or 5 M570s, and most of them have had a switch replacement. I’m several kinds of mechanic and several kinds of electronics hobbyist, so I have the tools and skills, soldering a microswitch is child’s play to me.

          I fix a lot of stuff, rescued my father’s old coffee pit from tue dumpster. Why chuck a perfectly good machine over a clogged bubble pump? Fixed a random orbital sander by pulling it apart and giving it a good scrub. Hurts my head thinking of all the peefectly goos things people throw away over easy fixes.

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            I agree, I just factor the cost of my time into the balance of the cost of a fix vs. a replacement. Cleaning doesn’t really count in my opinion, that’s something any device will require. For a $35 thing that lasts a decade and is made of plastic that will have eroded or fatigued significantly over that time anyway, the cost/benefit doesn’t really work it favor of repair, unless like you I enjoy the repair. For most people, the economics of the repair make even less sense.

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              Well here’s the thing: I can do that repair in the time it would take me to drive to the store, buy a new one, and drive back. People forget that costs time and labor too. And what’s the value of keeping these three mice out of the landfill for a few more years?

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        That doesn’t explain it at all for me. I’ve never lost a mouse, even wireless ones, and I’m pretty sure you’d have a hard time finding someone less organised than me. Any idea about how they got lost? I’m in no way saying you’re dumb or anything like that, just interested in the details. How and where did you find them? It’s a cool thing!

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          The first one I found after moving, the second I legit just forgot I put it in my old backpack

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    I’ve basically done this over a similar timeframe with the M590.

    Fun fact: In Japan, Logi used to be called Logicool. Because there’s already a local company called Logitec.

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    I wonder if America gets worse manufacturing, all the people complaining Logitech mice failing after a couple of years. While mine I have to kill them myself or gift around because they last so much and I like the new cool G series mouse.

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      Logitech doesn’t manufacture anything in America. They moved production from the US, Ireland, and Taiwan to China in 1994.