On join-lemmy.org, the project is described as “A forum and link aggregator for the Fediverse”. In the previous post, multiple people mentioned that this is not a good description. However I have a hard time coming up with anything better.
So please post your suggestions below, and upvote the ones which are both accurate and easy to understand for new users. Later I pick one of the most upvoted options for the website.
By the way the second title “Follow communities Anywhere in the world” will likely go away (see the pull request for frontpage redesign). After this is decided I may also make another post to get suggestions for the longer description text below (“Lemmy is a selfhosted social link aggregation and discussion platform. …”).
Edit: Please only post concrete suggestions in top-level comments, and use replies to discuss. And here you can see how a few other Fediverse projects do it:
Lemmy: Wow that’s a lot of communists
Too long; Didn’t read: Read last paragraph.
We need to understand the target audience if we want to get a good description. Speaking for myself, I would set the target audience to chronically online people who want to leave corporate walldoms, but I’d also choose a type of communication that focus on the actual service instead of comparing it to other serices. I’d not copy paste description from inspiration source. I’d be willing to reimagine what it is that we are developing.
I’d use communication that is less branded, and more understanding of the soul of the service. Its like saying “orange soda” instead of “fanta”, “search engine” instead of “google” or “car” instead of “Toyota”. The difference is by using this kind of language, we move ourselves away from dependency on the producers towards dependency on the tool.
Understanding the soul also requires that we have a culturally connected understanding of that which we discuss. That is to use less technical communication and more down to earth communication. To not play into sophistication. Less abbreviations, less techno jargon, more plain english, more understanding the equivalents of real life. For example, in the Gemini Protocol of small web, they use the word “capsule” instead of “instance”, which it feel more physical and more real. “Instance” on the other hand makes it sound like a computer thing and not related to reality.
About the soul, we should ask ourselves what the service feels like. Lemmy feels like small townhalls, or like a guy in the street yelling “Guys! What do you think of this drawing.” Perhaps a little gossipy or something like that. Ask yourself, what does lemmy feel like for you? Or what do you want lemmy to feel like? From here I choose “townhall” simply because it works for the purpose.
The above example also gives weight to the idea of physicality. When something feels physical, it feels real, and we feel drawn to it. In contrast, the abstract “instance” makes it more of a curiosity. We can talk of “towns”, “homes” or “hives” instead of “instances”. We can talk of “continents” of loosely connected hives instead of fediverse of platforms of instances. From here I choose “hive” because it distinguishes itself clearly to prevent misunderstandings.
With the physicality and smallness of “hive”, we can also encourage small scale thinking. Because no hives has a million bees. If you see a hive of a million inhabitants, you are going to be drawn towards smaller hives.
I’d also center the attention away from platforms and towards the hives and their interconnectedness. In this way we emphasize the decentralization aspect. The willingness to associate with other hives. I frame this as a hive being “open”.
This means we can talk of fediverse instances as open hives. Mastodon becomes shortletter hives, pixelfed becomes open gallery hive, peertube becomes open video hive.
So to be blunt, I’d suggest open townhall hive.
it’s decentralized reddit. or better yet, a decentralized network of forums.
i usually make the email analogy, where you can use any provider to access the same email network preventing vendor lock-in, but i don’t think that’s very catchy.
social media without the censorship
Build communities without the middle men.
Social media for the antisocial.
No tears from peers, a place to leer without fear (No corporate ears.)
Link aggregation without the agitation.
Look at stuff. Do things. No ads.
These are more like taglines.
The decentralized forum for countless communities
Seize the means of communication /s
I agree that federation is the central feature of Lemmy, besides it being libre software, however the term “federation” is something that already requires a newcomer to open up a search engine at best or get scared by the unknown and leave at worst.
It should exist, but in very layman’s terms, something like:
“A social platform for independent online communities of all topics, owned by people and not corporations, all in one place”
Mastodon also does a pretty good job on their main page, it’s easily understandable by anyone, and scrolling down gives you a much better picture of what it really does if you are interested enough to learn.
Communities, free from corporations.
Share and comment in communities, free from corporations
“Like Reddit, but owned by the people”
Lemmy talk about it: open source for open discourse.
Why not shorten ever further and make it: open source discourse
Yep, you’re right!
I vote this one.
Lemmy is a next-generation, open-source social network that functions as a global web of independent forums, allowing you to interact with a federation of sites where no single entity holds total control.
This one is too long, I would only use the first part:
Lemmy is an open-source social network that functions as a global web of independent forums
Whatever works mate 💚
I’m not saying your sentence is inaccurate, but send that description to a regular person and it will either cause their eyes to glaze over or cause them to run in the other direction.
It is what it is. I didn’t want to spend all day thinking about it so I posted what came to mind. If it helps, cool.
Think results based for the end user and not technically.
- A place to find your people
- A place to find your community
- A place to converse in the fediverse
- A place to find your interests
- A place to share your interests and find new ones
- A place to discuss anything with anyone
- A community of digital communities
- A modern digital discussion forum to share ideas in interest groups called communities
I think the main problem is “link aggregator” which doesn’t make a lot of sense as the main function is discussion. For a minimal change you could go for “a discussion platform for the fediverse”.
If “fediverse” is too obscure; you could try just “a decentralised discussion platform”. Decentralised isn’t technical, you can’t fully describe the fediverse in a sentence but “decentralised” gives a clue.
“Decentralized” may not be technical, but still its a long and complex word. “Fediverse” seems friendlier to me.
I get your point, but I agree with RobotToaster. We’re still at a point where the Fediverse is a very niche thing and a very niche term. For most regular people “Fediverse” is a nonsense word that tells them absolutely nothing, while “decentralised” (albeit a technical term) is at least a concept most people can grasp.
But if you tell them fediverse they can look it up and see there are tons of other sites that are part of the same group. If you say decentralized it sounds like you’ll be alone and separate
But how many will actually do that, though? That doesn’t really sound like how regular people would react. Like, if regular people were capable of reading up and looking into things on their own accord as part of the sign-up process we wouldn’t need to have this conversation about a snappy and succinct summary sentence about Lemmy in the first place.
Yeah I guess mastodon has it as ‘decentralized social media’ so it would be more in tune with that
I’d argue most people would know what centralised and decentralised mean, at least in abstract terms, while anyone that hasn’t encountered it before would have no idea what the fediverse is.
When I first heard “fediverse” I thought it was a joke about everyone on mastodon being a fed 😆
Every time I described Lemmy or Reddit to my friends I’ve always said that it’s something like “A forum with more fora inside”, and then I explain the federated part.
fora and flauna?











