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Artist has never had a physical health struggle before. It’s far more often the bottom picture
Yes, particularly people with chronic physical health issues are significantly overrepresented in both depression and suicide.
For Americans: top picture needs to show big medical bills. You’ll get treatment for physical health problems, but at a heavy price.
In America the bottom picture follows the top one.
Don’t forget with mental health struggles, people will tell you to just get over it and that marriage and kids may save you (which yikes, those poor kids), turn to god, or that the actual problem is that you’re not being productive so simply take a shower, start a hobby, develop your career. Your worth is based on productivity and you’re struggling because you’re not making someone else wealthy.
One of life’s universal truths: “Just push through it” is rarely a good plan and never good advice.
“You’re not depressed, you’re just lazy and need a job” 🫠
I truly think the best first step to beating any medical condition, both physical or mental is to have a positive outlook.
While I generally agree with what you’re saying, I can’t help but feel it’s negative and almost giving excuses to people experiencing these issues, that their problems are essentially unable to be fixed and that the world should have sympathy for them.
While I agree to a point, I also believe that until those people are truly ready to face their inner issues and work through them, they will not get better so I do ask myself what the point of these kinds of comments are?
You also kinda threw a capitalist spin on it, which I think is unnecessary
I can’t tell if you’re being ironic or not. But if you are, you should post on !chadmctruthstruth@lemmy.world
I understand the sentiment, but I literally lost all my friends when I had cancer in high school due to a combination of people not knowing what to say or how to act and an abusive boyfriend telling lies to the few that stuck around. The youth pastor at the church I went to wasn’t even comfortable coming into my hospital room
When the treatment is clear and the recovery virtually guaranteed, the support is freely given.
When the problems aren’t visible, the treatment plan is more improvisation than schedule, and recovery is hard to quantify. Support is harder to give and rarer to receive.
Mental problems are more likely to fall into the later bucket, but there are a swath of physical ailments from the metabolic and hormonal to the structural that also get lumped in.
When the treatment is clear and the recovery virtually guaranteed, the support is freely given.
The rising price of insulin and other common pharmaceuticals would suggest it is not freely given.
You don’t recover from diabetes by receiving insulin, so it doesn’t fit into the “recovery virtually guaranteed” part of that category.
But, yes, there are a number of chronic diseases with no cures but excellent treatments, and those treatments should be available free to the patient but are often targets for Capital to rent-seek from patients as much as “the market will bear”. And, when market failure means a painful death, the market will bear quite a bit.
And as someone who struggled with depression, I also wanted to offer the counterpoint that when you are experiencing a depressive episode, you aren’t necessarily going to be receptive to people coming around your bedside and giving flowers and support. It’s a mental state that rejects happiness or even comfort, so while I get the idea behind the comic, it’s over-simplified and not really prescribing anything. We don’t treat physical and mental illness the same, nor should we.
We should understand that they’re both equally real conditions that people suffer from, and need help in treating, but we need to stop giving this ammunition to unwell brains that their depression is part of a narrative where people aren’t going to help you or support you.
People broadly are bad at supporting and helping with mental OR physical conditions, as you outlined. Every time I’ve ever been ill, physical or mental, I’ve had to spend all my time reassuring others and taking care of the emotional states of those worried. This is how it usually goes, when we get sick or injured, we are not going to get helped by others, and managing the way others feel on top of being unwell is just part of the course, we don’t get a relief or break. We won’t get satisfaction no matter what happens, we have to just hunker down and get through it without expectation in others.
Chronically ill people seeing this meme: ‘Am I a joke to you?’
I’d love to see a mental health facility designed for people who simply need a bit of a break and need to get a little TLC. Like, come on in, drink some of this, it’ll put color in your cheeks.
That is what the spas that wealthy people go to are for.
I was thinking a bit more medical but yes, along those lines.
Once AI renders us redundant, which will happen, whether you like it or not…
…it will be possible, but they will instead, leave us to die, without even a humane way to euthanize ourselves.
They will take everything from us, and watch us squirm in our own trash and waste. Watch us struggle.
That won’t happen today or tomorrow and also not within the next decade. But we can improve the world within the next decade. This is anything but inevitable.
“AI” doesn’t exist. These kind of imaginary fantasies just promote the grift and distract from the actual problems with technology under capitalism.
Unless AI is going to watch all the ads we will not become redundant.
It’s the same person before and after seeing the medical bill
As an American, I don’t know what that first image is supposed to be, but it sure looks expensive.
Only Americans would think about money when being sick in the hospital.
Canada and the UK, too, if the politicians ever get their way. They’ve been moving in that direction slowly for a long time now.
And forget the hospital itself, just the ambulance ride there can cost $600+.
“Hmmm, should I undergo a lifetime of debt or just die now?”
That made me think of a joke thats funny to me…but I’ve learned that most OTHER people find some of my humor far too upsetting to be funny.
So instead, just think about that clip of donald duck getting a handjob from daisy duck where he cums all over the place, and then says “oh boy! You are a mess! I’ll go get you a towel!”
Thats ALWAYS funny!
“What the fuck bro?”
Farming downvotes? Most don’t want to hear about your personal hentai collection of their favorite childhood cartoons.
Is it you, SatansMaggotyCumFart?
I do agree with the message about invisible disabilities and mental ableism, but I’m gonna push back on some of this greener grass thinking. For a lot of physical health struggles like chronic fatigue, diabetes, juvenile arthritis, etc… they don’t get this kind of support. Being trans is also often a physical health struggle as much as mental. I like reminding people that gender dysphoria is a genetic disorder.
If you are rich they both can look like the top one.
Then again, if you eat the most nutritious food and live without ANY stress your entire life; you probably wouldn’t get mental or physical problems either.
live without ANY stress your entire life
Tell me your secrets, o wise one
if you are rich
They did. At the beginning.
The secret: Be so lobotomized, that you don’t think or worry about anything. Because a sane person will have phases in their lives, where they will want to achieve certain things.
Sad part is that after years off information and fundings for mental health ( for children ) it is still not seen by some as a problem. And than you get 18+ ( not child ) and somehow now you have to ‘man up’ ‘be harder’ or ‘yust laugh a bit more’.
And don’t forget the partner/familie. A depression also is a weight on their life.
oh man. “Just laugh a bit more” is abhorrent. WTF. WHY DIDN’T I THINK OF THAT? FWIW, I laugh sometimes, but i’m just hiding my pain. if i laugh more, i will be cured of all this shit? SOMEONE GET THE DOCTORS, AUTIENESS AND ADHD CAN BE CURED BY LAUGHING MORE!
Sorry, didn’t mean to go off at you. it wasn’t directed at you, but at your example. No ill will towards you :)
If you live in Sweden, the doctors will tell you to drink more water, eat healthy and go for more walks.
Which, to be fair, is good advice in general and good especially for depression.
But, yeah I get what you mean. Here in NL it’s not much better unless you bully your doctors.
Based on low suicide rates and people’s reported happiness, that is good advice the vast majority of the time.
Obviously an issue if it is the only thing they say.
35/180 is not low.
Mental healthcare here is beyond a joke.
Non taken.
Tkx for the reaction btw. We need people who care.
I get stress induced hives, and my old doctor’s advice was, “just don’t be stressed”.
Thanks for not helping, I guess.I’ so sorry for you. Hope that now you are better helped. ( Old dok… So i guess you have a new one)
Somewhat, though I most definitely did get a new doctor. Thank you for the concern.
I managed to get appointments with the psychiatry teams, however essentially it boiled down to it being difficult to help with CPTSD as a whole, individual aspects must be considered when each trauma differs greatly in subject matter.
So one therapy at a time. For a long time. It’s not what I wanted to hear, yet it is what I needed. I’ve been taking steps to improve my mental health in great ways, and my current doctor’s practice has been rather supportive.It’s funny, my new doctors is only about 10 minutes further than my old one. Has been worth the change.
And I think that these days we all struggle at least a little
Be kind to yourself, look out for your friends, family and loved ones
The few people ive met with mental health issues didnt wanna talk about it. Thats fine. But at the same time they started hiding away, not socializing etc… making it even harder to support them.
There is an enormous stigma attached to the mental struggles, so people are afraid of scolding and mockery
“how do you expect to get better if you don’t go out”
That’s a survival tactic learned from having talked to people about their mental health issues.
Probably been burnt from talking about it and then being dumped for being such a downer.
It’s completely bizarre how people who are victimized by society are expected to heal through immersion in that same society.
“Society”
What is the point you’re trying to make? Society is comprised of people, so if the world makes you depressed you should avoid all people?
Yes! A reason to post this!
Mood
have you tried just not being depressed?
spoiler
don’t think it needs to be said, but: /s
Skill issue, cannot reproduce.
(This joke works either way?)
Works on my machine
That statement also works either way 😉
If it is chronic those flowers and cards dry up quick. Also the medical care and attention beyond hucking out pills. Which brings us to panel 2…
