• ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 month ago

    This is the same CEO who has promised “full self-driving next year” every year since 2018.

    This is just plain lying by electrek…he started promising “self-driving next year” long before that.

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    As we reported last week, the “unsupervised” Robotaxis spotted on January 22 were all being followed by trailing Tesla vehicles with safety monitors inside.

    Genius. Musk invented a taxi service that needs 2 cars and 2 drivers per ride.

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      1 month ago

      Ah but now they’re going to be a robot company selling fewer and fewer robots instead.

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      Tesla isn’t a car company, it’s a techbro company. They don’t sell cars, they sell the idea that any day now they’ll achieve a technological breakthrough.
      But it’s becoming obvious that won’t happen, so they now pivot to robots. Selling the idea that they’ll achieve a breakthrough in that space soon.
      Those buying the products aren’t the target audience, the investors are. The customers are just useful cattle.

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    I can’t wait for Musks dominoes to fall. Once Tesla investors realize their investment is worthless all his other companies he has cross leveraged everything with will all list start collapsing and the whole thing comes down.

    That would be devastating to the markets, and it hasn’t even address the AI bubble which is going to pop and the biggest economic downfall and depression in American history begins.

    Tough times ahead no matter what, but the sooner Trump is gone they can start rebuilding.

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      Tesla has achieved remote control driving. It’s the only taxi service that has 2 cars per fare.

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        So instead of just paying a human driver for a taxi they have instead decided to use 2 whole cars AND a human driver. That’s peek efficiency there.

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          Oh, there’s efficiency–just in the wrong place. He efficiently made a 4% bump in Tesla stock value by telling a few lies. That’s all this is, and has been: profiting on hype/fomo.

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      Double your traffic congestion, or your money back!

      . . . or not, since I’ve never heard of Tesla voluntarily refunding anything.

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      1 month ago

      On the earnings call yesterday, they claim (I haven’t seen proof yet) that the chase car has been removed now.

      Edit: Just updating with a quote someone transcribed. I thought it was paid rides with no chase car, but reading the actual quote, it sounds like they are claiming it is with nobody in the car and no chase car.

      “We were able to do our first rides with no safety monitor in the car in Austin — these are paid rides, so these were just randomly paid rides with no safety monitor, and [umm] maybe as of maybe yesterday or so we actually don’t even have a chase car or anything like that so these are just cars with no people in them and no one’s following the car in Austin.”

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        The chase car has been removed - but no one’s seen the self-driving cars either, not since the chase car was removed. It’s another intentional misdirection.

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          I updated my post above with the actual quote after someone transcribed it. He’s saying there’s a car driving around with nobody in it, and no chase car, so not a paid passenger ride.

          So I imagine it’s going to be really difficult to get video proof of this if its true, because someone will have to spot a random Tesla driving around without a driver and bother to record it. It’s not like an influencer is going to hail it and be able to video it.

          Not gonna lie, when I heard it, it wasn’t as clear that this was the case as when i see it written out.

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            It would be easy to get video proof if they recorded the video themselves. They know where the car is going to be.

            If it really happened that is

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          Saying there’s no chase car anymore isn’t fraud if there’s no chase car anymore. I just haven’t seen any video proof yet of new rides in the past couple days.

          Edit: Looks like it’s actually real with no chase cars. It’s been 2 rides so far. They arrived in 1 (which has no one in it) and then take a ride in another one that has no one in it and no chase car.

          https://x.com/DavidMoss/status/2016939137031381487

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            Remember the Tesla Semi? They had videos transporting either empty boxes or potato chips, literally the least dense cargo possible.

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            They’ve said they’ve removed drivers from inside the taxis, then put them in cars trailing the taxis.
            Now they said there’s no chase car anymore, and there isn’t, because they put the drivers back in the taxi again.
            Both statements were technically correct, but purposefully misleading to bump the stock by a few billion right before earnings call.
            And at no point during all this did Tesla taxis drive autonomously.

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    Anyone else feel like Tesla is actually how Elon is being paid for being the one to make twitter fascist and the DOGE bs? Like the majority of shareholders don’t actually gaf how the company does and the billion dollar compensation package had nothing to do with Tesla other than it being the vehicle through which the payment was made?

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      I don’t see how. This is just a continuation of what he was already doing, facilitated by a board of his friends and relatives.

      Even worse I have to say I’m not totally against it. All too often ceos get excessive pay regardless of their results. While I haven’t looked in detail not at the history, the claim is these are only for Tesla meeting some extremely ambitious milestones and the payment is stock. Certainly his previous ridiculous allay was in stock and Tesla had some extraordinary growth. If the stock doesn’t go up, then he should never receive that wealth

      If it’s truly contingent on the company growth and the board doesn’t throw him a life preserver, that’s not entirely bad. Excessive yes. Extremely excessive. Excessively excessive. But more execs need to have their wealth gated on actual results

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        The thing that makes it more suspect IMO is that shareholders voted for it, not just the board. Courts specifically said they didn’t need to but shareholders (dominated by large account holders) still voted for it.