• Concur6053@lemmy.today
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    11 hours ago

    I don’t want anyone to suffer who didn’t cause someone else to suffer first, but realizing that suffering will occur due to others ignorance regardless of what I want isn’t me condoning it. And yes, I can’t think of a more direct way to get ignorant parents to understand the harm they’ve caused than for their own children to suffer from their actions. The whole argument is based on getting the people causing the suffering to stop. These people are wildly selfish; you think they care about anything that doesn’t affect them? It’s terrible that it’s reached that point, but if you don’t realize that yet, you’re living in a dream world. These people wouldn’t wear masks to prevent the spread of COVID, but they’ll happily support state thugs wearing them while disappearing anyone who isn’t white or who speaks out against the regime.

    Your solution is simple and effective, and in any other developed country outside the us it’s probably reality already. Do you live in the us? If you don’t, then it may be hard for you to understand why no part of your plan will happen at present. If you do live here, then you’re just plain ignorant to the reality here. Do I wish things were different here? With all my heart. I plan on leaving this shithole country as soon as I can.

    I’m posing a solution based on reality. You’re proposing a solution based on a situation that doesn’t exist where the problem is. Please don’t confuse my acceptance of the current situation with approval of it.

    • becausechemistry@piefed.social
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      9 hours ago

      I can’t think of a more direct way to get ignorant parents to understand the harm they’ve caused than for their own children to suffer from their actions

      I don’t need them to understand. I’m okay if they’re angry. They can throw a fit on Facebook and get a million likes. But if their kid doesn’t get the measles, it’s worth it.

      You’re saying you want to be proven right. I’m saying I don’t care what they think as long as their kids are okay.

      And yeah, I’m from the US. A rural town from a flyover state. My parents vaccinated me during the Clinton administration because the whole right wing coalition was there to disagree with him, not convince their rank and file that he was the antichrist.

      They can’t make their constituents hate “the left” (for whatever that’s worth in the US) any more than they already do. So why not just do the right thing? You’re correct in that center-left people will never enact what I’m suggesting. I’m going to stick around and make sure better people replace them.