“Whenever something closes in the UK, intellectual property rights revert 50 percent to the original creator and 50 percent to the crown, which is King Charles. So that’s the two owners of the games,” he explained.
But why?? Surely “public domain” would be a better option…
But imagine doing nothing and getting half of everything! Its good to be the king.
“the crown” is just a government entity. Anyone seriously thinking that Charles benefits from this is an idiot plain and simple.
Other countries have a similar system. Instead of having the IP rights up in the air where nobody knows who owns what. The ownership of the IP is clearly defined, half original creator half government. The crown’s only option in regard to this IP is to sell or dispose of it.
It’s there to prevent mass legal cases about who owns what when a company closes.
Why does anyone need to own it? Public domain is absolutely reasonable in this case, which means anyone can use the IP and nobody gets exclusivity.
That would also prevent mass legal cases because it’s clear that everyone has the same access to the IP.
Well in this case. No one actually knows who owns the rights to the DiscWorld games. Unless something has changed in the last year.
We’re also talking about a game licensing another entity’s IP.
But let’s assume that we do know. You can’t declare something in the public domain without knowing who owns it.
And how does the Crown owning half help things? That’s just another interested party with a lot of bureaucracy to get anything done.
Instead of that, there should be a process, something like this:
- Interested party approaches judge with due diligence showing the property is unclaimed
- Judge orders the IP agency to investigate, plaintiff pays some fee to cover that cost
- IP agency does own research and informs judge that no owner could be found
- Judge reviews evidence and orders the IP office to place a notice that the IP is unclaimed and will revert to public domain after a grace period
- After 6 months or so, the plaintiff is granted a temporary license to use the IP (until the end of the grace period), and after the grace period finishes (say, 5 years?), the IP enters the public domain
Other types of property are less complicated because ownership is tracked by the government.
What you’re describing is basically what happens. Only between the claimant and the government.
Also worth noting that this only applies when a company closes (is removed from the company register) and any IP isn’t transferred out of the company. And in most cases it is full ownership.
So as far as the law is concerned there is no ownership of that IP. Copyrights, trademarks, patents, whatever it might be. But that doesn’t mean people don’t have a claim.
By moving it to a government entity that is specifically set up to deal with these claims.
It removes any ambiguity. The government can make a clear cut ruling on who owns the IP.
Because “The Crown” is just the government. And unlike a private citizen the government won’t use these IPs.
There are only two things the government can do with an IP in this situation, declare someone with a valid claim as the owner, or sell it to a buyer. Who in both cases have to come to the government.
If no claims or offers are made the IP will eventually enter the public domain.
Holy shit, the monarchy is disgusting in the UK.
It is pretty absurd.
BuT tHe tOuRisM rEvEnuE
Whilst this is really just a cute story, if the guy really wanted to get it re released, there are plenty of avenues. Basically, he has to ask them to either sell or dispose of their claim to the ip. They aren’t involved in licensing or anything like that. they either sell or dispose of claims.
They probably don’t even know they have a claim. If they did they likely would have sold it long ago.
You shouldn’t have to beg them to sell you back your game. Trying to defend this pathetic monarchy in anyway is a joke.
calm down, no one’s defending the monarchy.
The Crown is an entity that’s part of the UK parliament and thus state, a lot of legal proceedings based on hundreds of years are law just go in there because that’s what happens.
It’s part of a law that has to deal with vacant goods, goods unclaimed. they have to go somewhere.
This guy didn’t own 100% of his stuff, he either gave it away or sold it a long time ago, the people who owned the other half dissolved their company without selling or giving the ip back. so it’ goes to the same place that everything in this situation does, it’s handled by the governmental legal entity that figures out what to do with them. and yes they do sometimes just say “they don’t own it” if they don’t care to sell it
it’s called Bona Vacantia if you want to go look it up instead of huffing and puffing over it
I feel like the developer should actually get some legal advice. In the U.K., “the crown” does not refer to the monarchy, but some legal entity that might as well be the state.
One source: https://harperjames.co.uk/article/bona-vacantia-buying-ip-from-the-crown/
