They (the person you are going back and forth with for example) 100% agree that Israel is taking all the actions

You would hope so but I’m not sure about that. He just blamed the famine on Hamas.

it’s high because the IDF allowed for and made specific rules that targeting civilians was ok en masse, as collateral damage, using Lavender

Yeah I read about this. Disgusting. Imagine putting that low a value on human life. Makes me sick to my stomach.

at some point they’re going to be forced to admit that the pain to the civilians is part of the point. And that their ACTUAL argument is that the civilians deserve it because of Hamas.

Exactly. But they’re all too cowardly to admit this.

They don’t seem to see that they’ve lost the moral high ground and they will never regain it again. I for one won’t forget or stop speaking out about this bullshit until the day I die. When the court convicts them of genocide people like JustZ here will either have to re-evaluate and maybe grow as a person or stick their fingers in their ears and claim the court is just so antisemitic and Israel has been innocent all along. I think it’s clear which is more likely