I am not an atheist, I genuinely believe that God exists and he is evil, like a toddler who fries little ants with a lens.
I’ve always said (jokingly since I’m an atheist) that Christians got it mixed up and thought Satan was God, so they’ve really been worshiping Satan all this time. They don’t want to admit they’re wrong about him being good, so they make up all kinds of excuses for all the horrible things he does. That’s why they were totally conditioned and ready to do the same with trump.
Just a gentle reminder that there are very many more Christians in the world that aren’t American and certainly don’t support Trump. Or even care that much about American politics.
LOL there aren’t people in the rest of the world. America is everything and everything is America. If you don’t agree will bring “Freedom” to you.
And a reminder that the Crusades and Inquisition both happened before USA was a country or even colonies. And Protestantism started because some people thought the Catholic church was too lenient (while trying to avoid being put to death by the Catholic church for saying that publically).
Not to defend American Christianity, but I’m not buying that it’s fine outside of America.
100% and they should swap jobs too. You hear from Christians all the time “this is the devils work” or “Satan made me do it.”
Conversely, how often do you hear this?
“What, that place? That one their? Yeah, that place is heaven on earth.”
Never
But “hell on earth” we hear all the time. You know why?
Because Satan is busy.
Imagine how much work hed do, if he got to be in charge. “Wanna know what will really piss yahweh off?”
No, Satan is just a being created by God who realized how fucked up God is.
Of course, the issue with God is that its presence equates power with morality, which makes people think Trump is a moral man.
the issue with God is that its presence equates power with morality
I can’t agree with this enough. My sister, a Christian, even agrees. Things are “good” and “bad” because god says they are, and for no other reason. And god is the highest good simply because he said that he is. The reason he gets to make those rules is that he’s the most powerful.
The Christian god is just a spurned lover who wrote in their diary about how stupid and mean their ex is and they should never have dumped him.
Satan is the dumper and has moved on long ago.
Most ancient religions had gods that were both good and evil. They were flawed and just as bad as humans if not worse for their abuse of power. Christianity and Judaism is pretty different in that they claim god is super good, especially Christians, even though there are things in their own Bible that show their god being evil.
I always used to wonder why they worshipped such a shitty god, and if I, a mere human, have better morals and know right and wrong better than the Christian god, what good is he?
having been raised in this religion the whole thing is a con.
The whole thing runs like god cop bad cop. God is written as ‘terrible’ in the bible he’s wrathful and vengeful and capricious as fuck. Old testament God it’s hard to see as anything short of villanous, outside of Genesis. He really is only ever fucking shit up.
Jesus is the nice guy who protects you from God if you promise to believe in him and pay his agents.
There’s simply no reason an all-powerful being needs anyone to be tortured to death to initiate a forgiveness. Torturing someone’s descendants because they fucked up is some cartel shit. If your religion has morals on par with a cartel you might be objectively incorrect.
God works in mysterious ways
It’s all part of his plan
Statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged.
Yes. It’s Dystheism.
Dystheism
TIL
Also noteworthy is misotheism. Seems OP counts as both.
“Dystheism (from Ancient Greek: δυσ-, romanized: dus-, lit. ‘bad’ and θεός theos “god”) is the belief that a god is not wholly good and can even be considered evil, or one and the same with Satan.”
the term i always heard was maltheism. reading the other comments though, i’m surprised how many other terms there are for this.
fun fact: renowned mathematician Paul Erdős referred to God as the SF, or Supreme Fascist, who kept all the best mathematical proofs to himself.
Hmm. Does God know the largest prime? Does God know the last digit of pi?
The premises of the questions are wrong, hence they do not speak to the knowledge of anyone but yourself unfortunately. There are no last element in an infinite chain, because that is contradictory to the fact that they are infinite. Even questions such as the barber’s paradox, that are not logical falacies, do not imply the nonexistence of god.
Mathematically speaking, everyone knows the last digit in Pi due to there not being one. We call this concept that something is vacuously true. Similarly a nonsense statement such as “all ants on the moon eat people for breakfast” is also true by default.
so the proof of the irrationality of pi is a bit more than i want to get into here, but there’s a very simple proof that there are infinite prime numbers which i will share here.
suppose that there is a finite number of prime numbers. write out a list of all of these prime numbers, and multiply them together. add one to this product, and you now have a number that is not divisible by any of our list of prime numbers, and thus should be another prime. this contradicts our initial assumption of finite primes, and therefore there are infinite primes.
any god is not above mathematics.
Knowing they don’t exist would count.
Erdos was fucking weird, lol.
I genuinely believe that God exists and he is evil, like a toddler who fries little ants with a lens.
That could describe the Demiurge in Gnosticism.
There is no god, but if there was one, the only logical conclusion is that he’s evil. So whatever you call it, your religion is the most sane one I’ve ever heard about
the only logical conclusion is that he’s evil
If you’re talking about the Abrahamic one, yes. Others could be good or neutral depending on their claimed characteristics.
Looking at the pain and suffering in the world, any god that is not only capable of stopping that, but is by definition the one that made things this way, the only logical conclusion is he’s evil, Abrahamic or otherwise
Yes, but a less powerful god may not be.
Fair enough
Fellow Sapiens enjoyer
I think it’s a common argument that’s been made by Hitchens and Steven Fry too, but you’re right 😁
God is real [points thumbs to self] and he’s evil as fuck.
Anti-theist.
No, antitheists oppose belief in deities.
You’re right.
Though anti-theist is an umbrella term that includes opposition to religion, not just belief in god. Which includes believing religions are harmful. As it isn’t a regulated religious body, the term is rather loose and not stringently defined. I personally believe it’s better to distinguish the faithful from the non-worshipful.
As opposed to dytheism, which typically holds god may be, or is, malicious and should still be worshiped. Though dytheism is not exclusively faithful, the term connotes faith more often than simple agreement god is evil.
Though anti-theist is an umbrella term that includes opposition to religion, not just belief in god
Absolutely, i just went for the relevant simple point that antitheists don’t believe in any god, regardless if good or evil.
I am unimportant. This world is primed for the great devourer.
Anti-theism?
No, that’s being opposed to the belief in god or gods.
Adaptus Ministorum
I call it, god, the Tyrant.
Feeble mindedness ?
That’s just religion
Gottem! /s
Some forms of gnosticism say this
Some forms of gnosticism also believe this. Look up the Demiurge and its background.
Yes, it is called Heresy.
For there is but one god and he is mighty.
IN HIS NAME WE SHALL PURGE THE UNCLEAN.
ALL HAIL THE MIGHTY GOD-EMPEROR
FOR GLORY AND FOR TERRA
Same thing.
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He is just another god of chaos. Evil in his own ways.
Well, he also specifically says the Chaos Gods are dicks.
But he also says they aren’t gods, and he isn’t a god.
Dicks everywhere!
Yes, Inquisition? This one right here. ಠ_ಠ
