He was abducted by Hagrid when he turned 11 so that would place him maybe around the fifth or sixth grade.

I don’t know if canonically there are math classes at Hogwarts.


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    I mean, the very existence of magic kind of nullifies the concept of math as a means to ascertain objective fact.

    What good is 2+2 when 2 eyes of newt plus 2 legs of frog leads to random quantities of dancing forks with literally no respect as to the how because magic?

    Math can’t quantify a world where physical laws are replaced by literal nonsense, and if math could ultimately explain the mechanics of magic and predict the outcomes of its applications, the magic wouldn’t be magic anymore, it would just be another great force of the universe like gravity or electromagnetism to be mapped by the scientific community.

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      Exactly what more than 5th grade math do you need in such world?

      I think a lot of people forget what they learn in 5th grade math. You learn negative numbers. You learn unit conversion, fraction, prime, square roots.

      Would more math help absolutely. Especially with the logic wizard seems to lack. But it is not like many people use higher level math today anyway.

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    Hermione mentioned in the first book that wizards tend to absolutely suck at things that are typically Muggle, like logic, so it follows that they probably suck at math too.

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        True, but their methods of learning do not differ significantly from that of muggles. They still need to take classes the same way we do, and this would need to learn maths and logic the same way too.

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      Although that could also be them being perplexed by the fact that muggles did it with no magic at all.

      Imagine us discovering a species that developed computers and tech just like ours, but using neither transistors nor electricity.

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      The series would have ended much sooner if Harry had brought an AK47 to hogwarts

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      could hogwarts defeng itself against modern weapons? like missils and shit?

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        Yeah. Easily.

        Reducto or any of a dozen other spells that make shit explode, magical barriers, simply transfiguring the weapons to something else… telekinesis. Simply not being there.

        And before you add “what if they were surprised…” …. It’s possible, but remember how shocked Hagrid was about the lie the Dursley’s told Potter? “A car crash?! A Car CRASH?! Kill lily and James potter?!….”

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          I don’t know. I’ve always thought a sniper could have taken out Voldemort. Far away, camouflaged, and the bullet gets there faster than the sound. It’s a reaction time thing.

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            I would expect Voldemort to have protective spells keeping things like that from happening.

            If it were that easy to kill a witch or wizzard… then there’s lots of ways to go about that. He wouldn’t have needed a special wand to fight Harry. he’d just fling a ginormous rock out of nowhere.

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            Obviously, JK Rowling was not a tactical mastermind.

            However in the universe she created, any powerful wizard worth a damn would simply keep protective shields up all the time, especially against such simple things like “fast objects hitting them”.

            Protego seems to be doing a lot with barely any effort to cast. Fred&George even create permanently enchanted clothing with Protego on it.

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              Idk I can’t remember anyone in Harry Potter using it as a straight up slur, the worst I can think of is some people use it in a rude way like “The Blacks” or “The Gays”. I haven’t read them in a long time tho, I just remember mudblood being a slur and muggle being the accepted term, even by muggleborn magic users

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                That’s because Mudblood is a magic user born from a Muggle family. A different term from Muggle itself. Pretty sure Muggle is an accepted term in the overall society (it’s used in the Ministry’s Department name for example), except from a few ‘activists’ you might hear of.

                I believe there’s someone like that in Hogwarts Legacy as well.

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                What’s wrong about saying the blacks or the gays? That’s just refering to a specific group of people. Only thing I can see as problematic is the generalization that follows but that’s always the case when talking about groups.

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                  People take offense to using adjectives describing a group of people as a noun. For example “the black community” or “people who are gay” describe a subset (describe a portion of the overall community,) whereas “the blacks” or “the gays” describe a distinct set (and imply that group as an “other”)

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    “Arithmancy” is their name for math classes and is mentioned several times throughout the books. It is one of Hermione’s favorite subjects.

    At one point, the real world evil witch that is JK Rowling suggested that Arithmancy is like dviniation, but with math, saying they use numbers to predict the future. I take this to mean that the wizarding community discovered calculus independently from the rest of the world and mistook it for a new form of magic.

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          Isekai is nothing new. Peter Pan, Alice in Wonderland, and The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe are all “isekai”. JK is just a special kind of bad writer.