Ubuntu should not exist 🤡 (24.04 LTS)
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Ubuntu 24.04 LTS subiquity installer is super buggy. I simply can't install OS. Other distros works fine OOTB on my hardware (btw I use Arch)#ubuntu #linux #...

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It’s top-down engineering. Mark commanded the desktop team to go all-in on Flutter. This is how Canonical functions.

  • Skull giver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl
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    5 months ago

    This looks like that time I tried to install Endeavour into a VM on am image that already had a previous Linux install. Something related to the partition manager just wasn’t happy. First attempt hard crashed the installer, second attempt hung, third attempt failed when I managed to get all the options in.

    I don’t know any Linux distro that has tested their installers much beyond the standard happy path.

    I don’t know what the focus on flutter has to do with anything. I don’t see a bug report linked anywhere so I don’t have any details, but based on the one line that flashes by in the video, the reason for the crash is a bug in the code, not some kind of framework error.

    • yum13241@lemm.ee
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      5 months ago

      Endeavor’s problem is a Calamares problem in specific.

      Pro tip: use an external partition editor before the install. For endeavor, this used to be gparted, but is now partitionmanager. (It even comes with the ISO!)

      • Skull giver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl
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        5 months ago

        Calamares is in just about every Linux install wizard these days, except for Ubuntu and maybe Debian with their even jankier setup wizard that’s a pain to use even if nothing goes wrong. I used a partition manager as a workaround (just wiping the entire partition table kind of worked) but I shouldn’t have to, as an end user. Nobody reinstalling Windows needs to go through a gparted boot disk first.

        Calamares is extremely extensible so it’s hard to tell if the issue lies with Calamares or some distro specific config/script.

        When Calamares works, it easily beats the Windows install experience, but the many ways in which the installer can fuck up don’t seem to be covered on Linux.

        • Takios@discuss.tchncs.de
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          5 months ago

          I tried to install Windows 10 about two years ago as a dual boot option. The selection on which disk to install it on always failed with some obscure error. Turns out the installer couldn’t handle multiple disks being available so I had to unplug every disk except the soon-to-be Windows 10 disk…whereas the openSuse installer was able to setup a pretty complicated RAID+encryption setup easily.