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It’s top-down engineering. Mark commanded the desktop team to go all-in on Flutter. This is how Canonical functions.
I installed ubuntu 24.04 over my previous installation of 23.10 and had literally 0 issues, so I’m going to classify this as user error.
I’m not sticking up for this release, but you’re just bad at puters, brah. Get gud.
Just retry, eventually it is going to install, beautiful
Apparently there are other issues as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1KXeTd30KI
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To the outside observer, it seems like it’s not a carefully taken business decision but some random engineer who wanted to learn rust and flutter.
You do know that isn’t how licenses work?
You do know that isn’t how licenses work?
This looks like that time I tried to install Endeavour into a VM on am image that already had a previous Linux install. Something related to the partition manager just wasn’t happy. First attempt hard crashed the installer, second attempt hung, third attempt failed when I managed to get all the options in.
I don’t know any Linux distro that has tested their installers much beyond the standard happy path.
I don’t know what the focus on flutter has to do with anything. I don’t see a bug report linked anywhere so I don’t have any details, but based on the one line that flashes by in the video, the reason for the crash is a bug in the code, not some kind of framework error.
Endeavor’s problem is a Calamares problem in specific.
Pro tip: use an external partition editor before the install. For endeavor, this used to be gparted, but is now partitionmanager. (It even comes with the ISO!)
Calamares is in just about every Linux install wizard these days, except for Ubuntu and maybe Debian with their even jankier setup wizard that’s a pain to use even if nothing goes wrong. I used a partition manager as a workaround (just wiping the entire partition table kind of worked) but I shouldn’t have to, as an end user. Nobody reinstalling Windows needs to go through a gparted boot disk first.
Calamares is extremely extensible so it’s hard to tell if the issue lies with Calamares or some distro specific config/script.
When Calamares works, it easily beats the Windows install experience, but the many ways in which the installer can fuck up don’t seem to be covered on Linux.
I tried to install Windows 10 about two years ago as a dual boot option. The selection on which disk to install it on always failed with some obscure error. Turns out the installer couldn’t handle multiple disks being available so I had to unplug every disk except the soon-to-be Windows 10 disk…whereas the openSuse installer was able to setup a pretty complicated RAID+encryption setup easily.
Every install, clear ALL partitions on the drive, THEN run the installer. Be happy.
But I like to use Btrfs on top of LUKS and more often than not it’s not an option.
The creator wrote in a pinned comment that they had a bad boot media. No idea what you guys are arguing about.
They just want to hate Ubuntu without facts
I have a fix, use Debian.
This was because of a faulty boot media
Can confirm. I recently ditched Ubuntu after more than a decade of increasing bloat, bugs, snaps, etc. Debian has been a breath of fresh air.
- Canonical decided to go all in on Flutter: https://snapcraft.io/blog/canonical-enables-linux-desktop-app-support-with-flutter
- Google just laid off large portions of the Flutter team: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40184763
imagine relying on a technology made by the company best known in the tech industry for abandoning even extremely successful products
consult the Google Graveyard for your next tech stack!
There is some good stuff in there
I will never forgive them for murdering Inbox.
Or Picasa
I hated Picasa, but I know that was because it was anathema for my needs. For most people it was great, and I never understood how they failed to monetize such a successful product.
“Snap Store, the app store for Linux”
Barf
sounds reasonable to me /s
I installed Ubuntu 24.04 on my grandma’s computer and her printer suddenly started printing human anuses
First attempt at the Server iso it wouldn’t boot, stuck in an endless wait for some snap services to start. I don’t use Ubuntu anyway and wouldn’t use Server before a .1, but it was not the best out of box experience.