Updates are available for $14.99 a month.
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I’m ok with dropping a few bucks if I like them, but monthly is just more bills to worry about. Dropping $20 once is a lot easier than drip feeding it over a year and hoping I remember to manage it. It also comes with the expectations of delivery/trade vs buying the dude lunch.
Ensh*ttification = Capitalism. Every point, every annoyance, every spy attack, all lock-ins, and so on, is a result of that archaic sponsored belief system…
Made by Microsoft
Yes, that does exist, and no, it’s not for consumers, but if it did, it would look and feel like an enshittified Linux distro.
you know windows 8?
like that
snap instead of deb
What would it look like? I’d guess Amazon ads in the search bar, proprietary package managers overriding the old open package manager, and popup ads for distribution Pro?
Wait…
What Fuckbuntu spin is that?
Stock
Ubuntu has had all three of those things. Amazon ads in the search bar was awhile back. Not sure but I assume they still hijack installing Firefox using apt and instead install it using snap. And Ubuntu Pro popups are a new thing.
It’s ridiculous how Ubuntu went from the easiest entry to Linux to one of the most hated distros in the community. Seriously, I’ll never understand how the broken brains of their leadership even work.
!$$$$$$!<
Ah, now it’s clear. The Apple of the Linux world.
Not so much broken as change of focus. Their focus now is money, and it’s hard to turn down hundreds of millions of dollars.
There are ways to not having to turn them down while still providing a good product.
You forgot selling user searches to amazon
Now that I was not aware of. WTF?
That’s insane.
Does anyone know if this is still the case? This video is 11 years old, but logic and common sense tell me that, if anything, it should be even worse now.
No clue, but they did their “whoopsie, didn’t know you wouldn’t like it, now it’s opt in” pretty quickly.
A while back I’ve read about some allegations that they’re illegally collecting data from Azure Ubuntu instances and sending Ubuntu pro marketing material.
Ubuntu was my first distro because ubuntu was linux for outsiders many years ago. Any other distro was only for hardcore people. I don’t regret hopping around the linux world.
I also started on Ubuntu. They used to be pretty great, good device support and basically no hassle. But I am done af and not going back.
I used Ubuntu for over 10 years. I loved it. But Canonical does have a lot of baggage. Plus, I wanted to go to the source. So that’s why I use Debian. I’d still advise a new user to go for Mint if they loved the Windows UI or Ubuntu if they hated it. If you use and love Mint, I don’t think anyone would criticize you for continuing to use it. If you use and love Ubuntu, I’d say Debian is a very easy next step.
I used to be “Debian on the server, Ubuntu on the desktop” but recently I’ve spun up a few Debian boxes for desktop and I’m pleasantly surprised.
Kinda wish Valve would go for a full-out supported distro that stays in step with the Deck for Linux gamers (the old desktop SteamOS is kinda abandoned from what I can see), among with making the deck frontend a supported desktop manager. It would make sense for them to do so and rake in the game sales whilst providing a well-supported platform without the shit others are doing.
Check out Bazzite, it’s basically that. I’ve been using it on my desktop for gaming and development for a month or so now and it’s been great.
Yeah I’ve got Debian on the server and on my laptop and I don’t know why I’d want anything more user experience focussed. It just works for me.
That’s me as well, they did a lot to get newcomers in. It’s just easy to poke fun at them these days.
It was the only one that didn’t freeze when I plugged something into the USB port on my laptop when I started 20 years ago.
I’ve since moved to plain Debian because of canonical’s decisions.
Same. I started really using Linux with Ubuntu 6.06 and was drawn in by its “Linux for human beings” goals - the Ubuntu homepage of the era really pushed the ideals of community and openness. Canonical sat in the background paying to send you free CDs in the mail. It was such an idealistic thing back then.
And then it all changed around 2010. The color scheme shifted to a shitty MacOS lookalike, the human elements were dropped, the logo was reworked, it got bundled with a paid music store, then Amazon ads in the search, and it’s been a roller coaster on a downward spiral ever since. I switched to Debian not long after the initial enshittification in the early 2010s and have not looked back, though I moved most of my systems to Arch a few years back because I like life in the fast rolling release lane and Debian wouldn’t support my new GPUs.
Hey! Sorry for the offtopic comment but… Glad you made it to Lemmy, and from the bottom of my heart: thank you so much for OpenRGB.
Awesome collab with KDE, Tuxedo, looking forward to the kernel implementation !
Huh? Is the previous poster an OpenRGB developer? That’s cool!
I got into linux right before all the snap drama really blew up (it did exist but didn’t seem to be quite as hot of a topic). I really liked my experience with Ubuntu, but seeing where Canonical has taken it, I’d never recommend it to anyone. I’d honestly advise newbies to use Debian. It’s incredibly stable, has a fantastic and well established community, and has everything an average user would want without adding layers of confusion with things like snap.
$ snips install ...Android?
Anything with systemd, flatpak and any other type of vendor lock-in.
Might as well use Windows at that point
Someone doesn’t know what “vendor” means.
“Old man yells at cloud”
You may as well just complain about the kernel itself being the vendor lock in to Linux
Dude heard about vendor lock-in, but has no clue what it is.
Stop pushing your pro vendor lock in agenda!
What is vendor lock in? It is so simple to understand we don’t need to tell you.
Just switch to GNU/Hurd
/s
Like Windows.
Windows, it would look like windows…
I know this is a joke but “Enshittification” requires there to be a monopoly that abuses commercial customers along with users. Linux distros can’t really have monopolies since the switching costs are so low.
Real question, how difficult is moving from Red Hat to SUSE?
How hard is it for you to install a different distro? That’s how hard.
Except if you are locked out of system management and you just can’t switch. Or only at the price of hardware incompatibilities and consumer apps refusing to work when they see you after practicing your ownership of the device.
See Android.What about a distro that artificially raises the switching cost?
…with AI
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The video actually addresses that by mentioning a company coming in nice at first and then doing EEE to kill off ll competition and leave them the only significant player in the space
LinuxFX…
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GNU/ME
Yeah that would be terrible, imagine if you were to run some updates and the package manager went like “Get <name of the distro> Pro! You will get better updates and support”
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