It’s not as fancy. No graphs, blinking lights, paneled layout.

apparently it has it all

https://lemmy.today/comment/20055580

as I understood you are complaining that they don’t have a package manager. they do, but not for system software.

you did not read the article

Because Windows updates take long and cause downtime. Also forcing reboots is not great (though I dont know if they just do that if there was a real vulnerability, that would be fine)

and also the fear that whatever will break. I often hear that people are afraid of temporarily broken drivers, but also windows updates often reset (unknown!) settings, things like audio device IDs that matter for pro audio software and systemwide audio effects (think device specific EQ and filters).

but on linux the system updates your software too, which is then again, if you are doing something professionally on the system, you are almost guaranteed from time to time to come across bugs that are in the way

But I guess Windows updates are more stable than typical Linux updates, more tests etc.

It’s weird because it’s true even though the filesystem and updates are much better organised on Linux. I mean the weird part being that windows is that stable even with the chaos it does in its system files.

from what OP said I think the sites’ DRM blocks watching on linux. I mean, why wouldn’t they try the website?

And also, are you too lazy to update your system occasionally, which is a simple command or a few clicks? Because how is needing to click a few buttons every few weeks/months “bad UX”?

It’s not the point whether they do. the average people wouldn’t. that’s why it needs to be automatic, or why the easiest way should also do that.

What? Linux mint is based on Ubuntu because that is supposed to be the great distro.

mint is supposed to undo shit decisions of ubuntu

LMDE was reported to work way less well than regular Mint. But for sure that is a good path onwards.

I don’t get it either, LMDE is treated as a testing project by mint

Distros apply updates, and users should not need to press buttons and wait all the time.

distros should let the user be able to defer updates, but make them effortless to install. people complain about forced windows updates all the time and for good reasons.

did you see how kde plasma 6 does it nowadays? its on the shutdown button. that is the way.

There’s a “Cinnamon on Wayland (Experimental)” session for that. And also, installing a new DE.

why would you recommend an experimental DE to a newbie? it breaks in 2 weeks and all you hear is “linux from shit”. not even directly, but through a friend of a friend, because they won’t ask for your help again.

when I was looking at the viability of installing mint for common people, one of my criteria was to have kde plasma, because it’s user friendly and evolves relatively quickly, in a good way. a common theme I was reading that yeah it is possible to install it manually, but it’s less stable. I think I cannot afford the burden of taking upon the yech support for people and fixing an unsupported DE when it breaks, because it is complex software, with many moving parts that if the distro does not focus on always packaging correctly, if they don’t test it but only rely on users to report issues, then that won’t work reliably. If I want kde, I need a distro that takes it seriously and allows it as a default DE.

opensuse is ending slowroll. I had a pretty good experience with fedora kde edition though

I don’t think the average consumer knows about those issues. what makes you think they do?

its here:

• https://get.opensuse.org/leap/16.0/#download
• click release notes
• release notes HTML
• 2.2 migration from leap 15.6

and SmartTubeNext and YouTube with Sponsorblock both give me about a minute of black screen

I just read somewhere that it’s because clients need to wait until the pre-roll ad ends. until that the servers will block requests to the actual video for your client

However, I do find it funny these “American patriots” feel they need to use Canadian servers to exercise their free speech.

Canadian servers? what do you mean? fedidb does not show server location to me

you don’t have to. just run dnf upgrade and accept the risks, it will work just the same as before.

mostly anything on windows

that can be done too. tarballed software normally doesn’t have permissions attached I think

but also the way it puts file data one after the other can be beneficial for compression, especially if you can define the order of the files somehow

@SatyrSack@quokk.au

there is. if the updater gui integrates with packagekit and systemd, it can start an offline update that reboots your system and installs the updates while nothing else is running.

kind of like on windows, except that this is one of the things where windows made the right call. complex software does not handle it well if its program libraries and assets are being replaced by newer ones that the running version cannot understand.

its still kind of a new thing, not all distros make use of it yet, but Fedora does, and it’s not a Fedora custom solution but something that most distros can have.

automatic filesystem snapshots and rollback can be integrated to this too, and then bye bye to updates breaking the whole system.

I don’t think so. all user processes should be stopped in one way or another before the screen is turned off