Like Windows.
How about the maintainers blocking a package that’s included in the default repository for ideological reasons?
Huh ? Not aware of this one, which distro and package ?
Some distro that uses the Ubuntu repos blocked users from even installing snapd manually without jumping through a bunch of manual hoops. It’s one thing to not preinstall it, but that reeked to me of exactly the “we know better than our users” attitude they were accusing Canonical of.
what happened on this one?
GNU/ME
Yeah that would be terrible, imagine if you were to run some updates and the package manager went like “Get <name of the distro> Pro! You will get better updates and support”
Android?
LinuxFX…
fine by me if they can imitate windows, sans all the ads, dark patterns, and shitty business model.
windows is actually a halfway decent os underneath all the enshittification crud.
I know this is a joke but “Enshittification” requires there to be a monopoly that abuses commercial customers along with users. Linux distros can’t really have monopolies since the switching costs are so low.
Real question, how difficult is moving from Red Hat to SUSE?
How hard is it for you to install a different distro? That’s how hard.
it can happen if you have some form vendor lockin, or if you are an oligarch in a cartel. it doesnt need a monopoly strictly speaking.
Except if you are locked out of system management and you just can’t switch. Or only at the price of hardware incompatibilities and consumer apps refusing to work when they see you after practicing your ownership of the device.
See Android.The video actually addresses that by mentioning a company coming in nice at first and then doing EEE to kill off ll competition and leave them the only significant player in the space
What about a distro that artificially raises the switching cost?
…with AI
Windows, it would look like windows…
Updates are available for $14.99 a month.
what if you are sponsoring a dev by means of something like regular donations?
I’m ok with dropping a few bucks if I like them, but monthly is just more bills to worry about. Dropping $20 once is a lot easier than drip feeding it over a year and hoping I remember to manage it. It also comes with the expectations of delivery/trade vs buying the dude lunch.
Ensh*ttification = Capitalism. Every point, every annoyance, every spy attack, all lock-ins, and so on, is a result of that archaic sponsored belief system…
We have this already. It’s called Ubuntu + Gnome
even with all its faults and shitty maintainers, gnome is among the best ux of any de.
Gnome isn’t enshitification just because you prefer a different DE ffs
To quote Clem, head of Linux Mint: “At a time where GNOME applications are less and less designed to work anywhere else than in GNOME, a project like XApp is extremely important.”
Libaidwata breaks backward compatibility with older gnome versions and amongst other things doesn’t allow theming natively, so the Cinnamon team are going to have to fork off and maintain the older code which works so they can continue to have theming and stuff with Gnome apps.
Gnome seem to like doing the opposite of the Linux philosophy which says interoperability should always be a priority so that the code can be shared as freely as possible.
I can’t tell whether they are stupid or lazy over at Gnome. It’s not enough to strip the DE down to nothing but now even the code that worked with previous, gnome still widely used, is being dumped.
They are a little island unto themselves.
That’s a whole lot of waffle without saying anything of substance.
“Gnome apps are designed primarily to fit into Gnome 😡😡😡” is not what enshitification means.
Purposely breaking backwards compatibility knowing full well that other FLOSS DE’s rely on it is enshitification of the worst kind.
We all lose in the end.
Not 👏 what 👏 enshitification 👏 means 👏
Gnome can theme their own apps however they like. It’s their project.
Another Snap/systemd hater idiot spotted. Bet you compile every single package with musl on Gentoo on your Libreboot toaster.
snaps (and the way canonical is pushing them) are awful at best. snaps are the one reason ive been meaning to hop right now, but its not the first time canonical pulls shit like this.
Snaps can sandbox system applications, with no competitor capable in sight. So what is this shit Canonical is pulling?
a) having apt packages link a script that downloads the snap. That’s the first problem I had, back when I used Ubuntu as as snaps were rolling out. It gave me big trouble updating on bad internet connection.
b) making the server fixed and proprietary, restricting the freedom to do things differently and offer different changes to other users, that we’re used to in the Linux and FOSS world
in addition to what the guy said:
how it doesnt respect standards like XDG, and how painfully slow it is.
No, it is not slow in performance. First time startup is just as slow on Flatpak.
not at all. speaking as someone who replaced snaps for flatpaks because of this.
I was using Snaps until last year just to know how they are doing. Snaps did not feel much slower. However, I felt like I became mature enough to use Debian, so jumped ship.
Gnome isn’t bad, at all. The team has caused controversy and made mistakes, but gnome’s experience is great.
Talking about ubuntu, snaps suck, and it is more “bloated” than what you’d expect, but still, ubuntu isn’t half bad. Is mint better for what the ubuntu audience wants? Yes. Does ubuntu still work well? Yes
And ubuntu server rocks
your autocorrect misspelled debian server in that last line there.
I tried Ubuntu again recently for the first time in years.
Between Snaps and having to create an account to get security updates, I quickly gave up on it.
Redhat already did it
Whatever SCO thought they were doing.
Exit codes from processes are damage points that you take against your HP. When your HP runs out, the distro reformats itself to a clean state.
Instead of reformatting it just logs you out and demands buying a Heal Crystal for 350 Linux Diamonds. You can buy Linux Diamonds in packages of 400 for just 9.99 or buy the 800 package to get a 10% discount!
I totally enjoyed this video!
Android?
MiUi for sure
Oh definitely.
I still hate my old phone for locking ABD behind a Mi account registration and when I wanted to go into the theme settings some stupid marketplace app opened from which I could quit by hitting the back button to het to the actual android theme settings
yeah, also the constant wait times when you install APK… it used to be a decent OS but starting with MiUi 11 they started really enshitifiying big time.
And now they changed the name to HyperOS (my dad has a phone with it installed and is constantly complaining about it)
sounds like a perfect opportunity to use this account to unlock the bootloader and swap out the os for something not enshittified
snaps heh
