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If they pull another Brooks Brother or similar, then we fight.
Sure, yeah, that’ll be when we finally “fight.” Totally. We’re right behind you.
Remember, this is actually a question of what to do about a coup d’etat. Undercutting basic democracy is not a question of law, but a question of who will use force how much force to address it.
We need to be ready to march in the streets if SCOTUS tries to pull some fuckery. They’re not even supposed to be in the loop on elections. That’s the newly elected Congress’ job.
Ready for more than marching.
We need to be ready to march in the streets if entities like local precinct offices or the Georgia Election Board try to pull some fuckery too, long before the fuckery even makes it to the MAGA SCOTUS.
Hate to break it to ya, but marching in the streets won’t solve this. More drastic measures would have to take place, and frankly I don’t see that happening.
If SC tries to hand the country over to a lying fascist insurrectionist there will be drastic measures. If they don’t respect the rule of law then that’s the breaking point where we stop respecting their laws. Biden has insane immunity coverage courtesy of the SC so we can start with some “official acts” of removal and see how all this plays out.
On the contrary a massive number of people on the streets is the only way we’ve seen effective change in the past couple decades. Violence has led to protracted conflicts with a low rate of success.
Ah yes, I also remember when the Iraq War protests stopped the invasion. And when Occupy reigned in greed on Wall Street. And in 2016 when Trump was defeated. And in 2020 when we finally ended systemic racism and police brutality.
Or in 2000 when 750K joined the Million Moms March and stopped gun violence. Or in 2004 when 1.2 million marched to protect abortion rights and 2017 when 500K joined the Pussyhat Protests and prevented Roe v. Wade from being overturned. Or in 2014 when 300K joined the People’s Climate Match and stopped climate change.
Yep, walking around with signs has truly been the only way “effective change” has happened in “the last two decades.”
If it comes to the supreme court, its over. Harris needs a minimum of a two state win over Trump. That means she needs to pick up one or both AZ and NC, and PA. GA is out because its basically automatic recount fuckery.
There is another thread about this elsewhere, but way the table is set, it looks like Harris is on track to either a) lose outright, or b) lose at the SC.
Which is why we can’t give in to defeatism and it’s dangerous to frame discussion with the notion that Harris is “on track to […] lose.” It’s not over until the election is over.
Nothing is guaranteed in this election. Talk of Harris as though she’s definitely going to win or definitely going to lose only serves to depress voter turnout because people think their votes aren’t necessary.
Vote like your rights depend on it; encourage everyone you know to do the same.
is why we can’t give in to defeatism
No, we can’t engage in self delusion.
and it’s dangerous to frame discussion with the notion that Harris is “on track to […] lose.”
No, its dangerous to stand in denial of the evidence. Hopes not going to get you there. The evidence we have right now suggest we might not even have to worry about SC fuckery.
The ONLY thing that can be done is to stop with this trite, delusional thinking, and to stop advocating for this candidate blindly. That kind of toxic blindness is why the candidate is suffering. Accepting less from your candidate means they don’t do as well on election day. We need to demand better from her because if she doesn’t do better, she wont win.
This comment is incoherent.
Something you dont agree with <> Something incoherent
Your comment just makes no sense. I can’t even say I disagree with you because you have no point — there’s no propositional content with which anyone can agree or disagree.
So your claim is that the set of claims I made contain no claims.
oh ok, yeah .sure.
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She can just certify the vote for herself and Biden can just “official act” any scenario he wishes— per the $upremely Courted’s rulings and fuckery.
In Bush v Gore SCOTUS inserted itself before the constitutional remedy of a congressional ballot could be held. There’s no reason to think they won’t do it again.
I mean, do you think she has the nuts?
It’s either that… or 1933 Hitler stuff again
You don’t get to decide if you have the nuts or not.
Actually, that’s precisely how one decides if they have the nuts or not.
The nuts is a poker term. It means having the high hand, or the best possible hand based on the board.
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