Cards on the table: for Google money I’d do it too. If they want to enshittify their product until the competition has a fighting chance, who am I to stop them? Sure, it’s an annoying and anticonsumer thing to do. But making a “free” product’s bad qualities harder to circumvent isn’t the ethical hill I’m going to die on.
I would take the job just to make sure we can sabotage it. And I’m not even affected by their adblocker detection; I just yt-dlp and NewPipe the videos.
Yeah, I don’t really get the argument here. As much as it sucks, it’s not nearly as morally reprehensible as something like weapons. If you don’t do it someone else will. It’s not something a handful of devs are gonna make a difference in by boycotting and it isn’t worth being fired over or not accepting a job over.
Advertising is absolutely morally reprehensible. It is propaganda that exists only to manipulate people into buying shit they didn’t want or need. And it turns out that mindless consumerism is destroying society and our planet.
Last time i watched youtube unprotected it had a higher fcking ad frequency than television. And they were put in the stupidest places imaginable, making the video unwatchable. And i’m fucking genx, so i grew up way before the concept of avoiding ads.
There’s funding your product then there’s just being a piece of shit
Cards on the table: for Google money I’d do it too. If they want to enshittify their product until the competition has a fighting chance, who am I to stop them? Sure, it’s an annoying and anticonsumer thing to do. But making a “free” product’s bad qualities harder to circumvent isn’t the ethical hill I’m going to die on.
But, who’s their competitor? They have none. All the other alternative have very specific community (artsy short film, science, etc)
Peertube exists
And it sucks, not a lot of them federate because video storage is expensive
I would take the job just to make sure we can sabotage it. And I’m not even affected by their adblocker detection; I just
yt-dlpand NewPipe the videos.For Google money I’d do it too…but I wouldn’t do a very good job of it
Yeah, I don’t really get the argument here. As much as it sucks, it’s not nearly as morally reprehensible as something like weapons. If you don’t do it someone else will. It’s not something a handful of devs are gonna make a difference in by boycotting and it isn’t worth being fired over or not accepting a job over.
Advertising is absolutely morally reprehensible. It is propaganda that exists only to manipulate people into buying shit they didn’t want or need. And it turns out that mindless consumerism is destroying society and our planet.
You can’t make better people and better cattle at the same time.
Imagine you were a billionaire. Which do you want?
I never said it wasn’t morally reprehensible. Only that it’s less morally reprehensible than something like making weapons.
Last time i watched youtube unprotected it had a higher fcking ad frequency than television. And they were put in the stupidest places imaginable, making the video unwatchable. And i’m fucking genx, so i grew up way before the concept of avoiding ads.
There’s funding your product then there’s just being a piece of shit