- cross-posted to:
- news@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- news@lemmy.world
At the dawn of the new year, Pornhub will leave Florida. Thanks to a harsh new age verification law that takes effect on January 1, the porn giant will no longer do business in the sunshine state. The law mirrors similar laws passed in other Republican led states where Pornhub has stopped doing business.
While Pornhub pulling out of Florida (US) may not be the end of the !world@lemmy.world, the underlying trend of pornography criminalisation for “modesty” can easily translated into sexual control and control of sex.
As we all know by now, sexual control is gendered against women and queers, racialised, et al.
Control of sex on the other hand is well substrated in Anti-Choice or bodily autonomy-denying discourse as well as population control for classist, racist etc. motives.
Since when is Florida scared of sex? Since it hates minorities. (IMO)
people can dress it in whatever positive or negative light they want over the p*rn issue. the larger issue at hand IMO is that its the government stepping into people’s private lives and telling them how to live. “Your culture is immoral, you need to learn morals and modesty. you are being reprimanded for your immoral behaivor” These views are Considered Immoral by some but perfectly fine by others.
lets call it what it is, its the people who err on the bible thumping side of the fence, trying to enforce their views on the rest of the people.
I’m a supporter of more scrutiny in general when it comes to kids having access to stuff online, (A lot of stuff, not just 18+ things). but that’s obviously the avenue that the Morality Police are trying to take to go after society in general
The smokescreen of supposed enforcement of children’s rights is so thick, that the issue they say they try to address cannot be discussed even among the adult electorate.
Children cannot comprehend pornography, but so are the proponents of sexual control. Our current societies do not have adequate education of sexuality, even or especially for adults.
A theoretical child in a theoretical society, that has no concept of sexuality, a “pure” child so to speak, will be unfit as an adult for a sexually-controlled society, because it will very likely be unable to say no to coercion. Children and adults cannot resist coercive societies without education.
Pornography is a market with low elasticity. States banning markets essentially lose significant control over the exchanges. States already ban coercive pornography (not very good, but idealistically), but allow consensual pornography. Banning pornography altogether mingles coercive pornography with consensual pornography in black markets. Uneducated adults will not understand coercion in black markets of pornography.
Is “coercion pornography” rape or rape play? I assume you mean that once pornography is illegal well get the same results as the war on drugs; things that would generally be innocuous becoming tied to criminal activity.
It’s much broader than sex though:
I guarantee this will be used (or at least attempted) to silence political speech critical of local governments. It’s far too easy to come up with even the weakest justification for why something isn’t appropriate for children and Republicans have an army of useful idiots ready to parrot their rhetoric and convince everyone else who isn’t paying attention to what’s happening.
Its real target is less pron, and more “So, you think you’re maybe gay? Here’s what you can do…” or “If your family hates queer people, and you’re queer, here’s help for you:…” information.
Anything to keep “teh gays” from “converting kids to trans”.
further, paradoxically, denying access to porn puts women in more danger. most porn consumers will probably just get a vpn and roll with it. but enough of them will translate their frustration into violence against women for it to be a problem. we know this because we’ve seen it before. sex work is degrading, dehumanizing, and exploitative, but banning it consistently makes it worse, not better, for the people most endangered by it.
That’s… Part of the goal. Women “need to know their place” and all, per the GOP.
oh no i know. it’s just they always sell these policies to women who aren’t endangered by them by saying they’re meant to make women safer. it’s like saying “we’re going to make communities safer by criminalizing drugs.” to demographics who were never endangered in the first place it makes sense. to people who understand the interrelation between class and crime, it immediately raises risk flags. the best way to get people to stop selling drugs is to give them money to buy food another way. the best way to get people to stop doing drugs is to get them into a healthcare facility and address the issues the drugs dull. criminalization just makes engaging in these survival tactics more dangerous
Or they are laws to prevent children from seeing pornography.
Former child here. Children will figure out how to get access to anything they need. They’re not the target audience here. Or at least it won’t work that way, even if intended to.
Since this says “material that is ‘harmful to minors’” and not specifically pornography, it could also be used to silence dissenting opinions, etc. Reading anti-republican propaganda? Better be ready to show you ID for that…
Yeah, that might be a side effect.