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cm0002@lemmy.world to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 months ago

How to Avoid US-Based Digital Services—and Why You Might Want To

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How to Avoid US-Based Digital Services—and Why You Might Want To

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cm0002@lemmy.world to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 months ago
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Amid growing concerns over Big Tech firms aligning with Trump administration policies, people are starting to move their digital lives to services based overseas. Here's what you need to know.
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    GitHub? Internet Archive? Wikipedia?

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      What are the alternatives to those?

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        • GitHub - https://codeberg.org/
        • Internet Archive - https://archivebox.io/
        • Wikipedia - https://www.britannica.com/ or just literally any site created using https://mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki
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          Britannica is headquartered in the US (Chicago) and most Wikipedia editors are not from the US, so I wouldn’t count out Wikipedia so quickly.

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            Eh?

            The problem is Wikipedia is based in the US. Where editors are from doesn’t really matter. If Wikipedia gets taken down by the government the fact that I don’t live in the United States isn’t going to allow me to continue to update it. We would have to move everything over to a new platform outside the United States, so yeah I absolutely would include Wikipedia.

            Most people who post on Facebook aren’t located in the US either

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              The difference between Wikipedia and Facebook is that Wikipedia content is under a Creative Commons license which allows the entire encyclopedia to be forked and the underlying software (MediaWiki) is free and open source. The entire Wikipedia database is continuously mirrored to servers in countries outside of the US, so Wikipedia can be resurrected in any other country if the situation you describe happens. In contrast, any Facebook content would be lost due to adverse government action.

              Asking people to stop using Wikipedia is like asking people to stop using Linux because the Linux Kernel Organization is based in the US (California), despite Windows and macOS also being US-based. There’s no comparable non-US alternative to either Wikipedia or Linux, and the projects can be forked to different countries by their contributors without any action from the projects’ managing organizations. If you boycott Wikipedia, you also play into the hands of Elon Musk and other agitators who are attacking Wikipedia in an effort to redirect the public to right-wing US media sources.

              Finally, part of my point was that Britannica is not an improvement over Wikipedia, because Britannica is also US-based. This is the reason I mentioned that Wikipedia editors are mostly from outside the US.

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            Damn. We need a decentralized archive and encyclopedia badly.

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        Exactly, you tell me since I’m just giving you examples of US hosted services as you asked for.

        Personally you could self host all three, but it would be a fairly expensive endeavour and you’d be operating on a brand new platform with no users.

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          How would i tell you when i asked you for the alternatives? That doesn’t make any sense.

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            Pray tell, how do you “pirate” a SSO service as you alluded to above?

            No one asked for alternatives. We’re more interested in how you’re gonna “pirate” these things. Cheers!

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              I asked for alternatives. More than once. Cheers!

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