The fediverse feels laggy at prime time and we are nowhere near Reddit size. I wonder if it can scale to handle millions of users.
Probably another big tech would fill the gap before. Sad, but that’s the most likely outcome.
I would say (and I know that is a controversial opinion this one) that the fediverse itself is a little to blame here. Not because the technical difficulties to join in that are not that bad, but because most people in the fediverse want everyone here to have a very characteristic political ideology and to be very passionate about it. Like 90% (exaggerating here)of what I read here and in mastodon are politics (more so politics from a very specific pov), even after I made a big effort to get away from political communities.
Most people have not that particular ideology or are not that passionate about it, so they take a look of what’s going on here and take the sane decision of not joining in.
I actually think that’s the bigger impediment for the fediverse to become mainstream.
I block all politics.
Lemmy.zip has implemented Default Blocks so that new joiners have politics communities hidden from their All feed: https://lemmy.zip/post/33065677
Totally agree. A lot of negative people here that will push away the average person. I’m talking about political fanatics of course. Maybe some subs need to create a no politics rule.
I hate to break it to you – but we’re already here.
I think they might mean all european social media users. The vast majority of those are still on corpo socials.
There are dozens of us! Dozens!
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Could you elaborate on what you mean please?
Edit: I seem to be getting downvotes, so Id just like to clarify, I wasnt being smart or sarcastic in any way, just genuinely didnt understand what the comment OP meant xD
People that live in the EU are already on the fediverse.
No no no… They’d have to be in the Internet first, and so far, the web is only Americans, Russian bots, and South Korean gamers.
No Europeans here …
Downvoting people who are asking for clarification on something. I thought this wasn’t Reddit…
Edit: Wow. Just wow.
What does the fediverse have to do with that?
This question is nonsensical. Let’s say Amazon leaves the EU. What does that have to do with the Fediverse? If all US social media companies left, people will find other forums to engage in. This could be the Fediverse, could be something else that hasn’t been created yet.
In the long run, I think we will all end up on a version of federated social media. The corporate silos will lose their appeal, regardless of where they’re based. Whether this future federated service will be based on Activity Pub or AT or whatever protocol no one knows right now.
I think you overestimate the normie mindset. Most people want a heavily curated, walled garden and silos which high-end corps provide, if sold under convenience. Most are not going to go around looking at say Lemmy or Mastodon instances and pick and decide. Most people who use WhatsApp can barely switch to something that does not utterly spy on them despite the fact they know that Meta spies on their Meta data. FB is wretched but it has billions of user, alone. Doubt it will be the fediverse.
If this is to be believed, all Lemmy users do not even break 433,300 users total. Unless I am reading it wrong.
“In the long run” does a lot of the heavy lifting there. We’ve gone from indiscriminately giving our data away 25 years ago, to having a sizable chunk of people like you and me who are aware of the data siphoning and take steps to curb the flow today. In another 25 years, I think users’ mindsets will have changed enough for my prediction to have a chance in hell of becoming true. I hope to see the day.
Hey, I think you are replying to me? But Iwas not the one who said, “in the long run,” that was the poster above me.
I did not make that claim. But nevertheless, if I may, 25 years from now, is a long time. I agree that many things can change. But right not, when it comes to privacy, the next 5-10 years do not look good.
I use Linux on all my machines due to privacy, and tech background, I like Linux, and because I support FOSS. If you do too, we are less than 5% of all users, likely closer to 4%.
I use Firefox based browsers, and if you do too, we are less than 4% of all internet users. Closer to 3%.
If you use the Fediverse. The entire Fediverse cannot be more than 100 million. I posted elsewhere that all Lemmy users are less than 433,000, total. We are likely under 20 million or maybe a tad more? FB has like 3 billion. Twitter has hundreds of millions, I believe. Even Bluesky is like 32 million. Feel free to fact check me on that, it has been a while since I last checked.
Everything is turning into subscriptions services and at least in my circle of friends, when I mentioned the fact that people have bought corporate microphones that listen to everything that they say, with clips of those going to corporate, they all accept it as fact, but there follows this weird uncomfortable cognitive dissonance where people accept it but do not want to really think about it because they like asking Alexa for weather alerts and to play music, etc. And they are all fine with it. When I deal with normie people, they are 100% on board with giving away all privacy if it saves them a click or two. Maybe in 25 years it may be different, but this is not changing in 5 years. That is for sure. Maybe not even 10 or more. The majority is likely to not really change in that time. Since tech trends are heading into even less privacy, in the aggregate.
I’m sure some servers will struggle with a huge influx but the fediverse as a whole would be ok.
Influx from what exactly?
An influx of folks moving away from US social media companies. The the twitter exodus of late 2022 but for all US platforms
That’s wishful thinking
There was no real Twitter exodus to here. Most users came and went back. Or ended up in Threads, stuck there since FB will delete their IG account if they delete their Threads ID or BlueSky and even that last one is starting to go down already. Peak was Nov, 2024.
Lemmy Stats: https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy
BlueSky Stats: https://bsky.jazco.dev/stats
wth is this question
Are you asking if the stricter EU laws around social media in the EU could affect how something like lemmy.world could exist there vs the US?
