I use Ubuntu btw. Poweroff could use more write cycles on the SSD because it has to read everything at startup, but suspend has to keep supplying power to the RAM
y’all been powering down your systems?
had my servers up for like a decade or more…
Nearly always suspend. It just works for me and I’ve never had issues (Arch and Pop). I rarely, rarely have power outages so the end result is the same.
I could care less about the 5 cycles from 10.000.000 total cycles (dunno the actual number) at least for my desktop.
As for my proxmox server: 5% wearoutI use the hybrid: suspend to ram, then after 2 hours, automatically suspend to disk - in the final state it uses zero power. And, if you have encrypted your drive (you DO encrypt your drives, right?!) then you need to enter passphrase on resume from hibernate, so safer if device was nicked.
I’m lazy and use systemctl poweroff! 😆
I power off so that my drive encrypts when I’m not using it
Yeah I am a bit paranoic sometimes about it too
I definitely shut down my systems from time to time just to make sure my network is configured correctly and shit doesn’t go haywire because I’d rather have that happen than the power go out and everything comes crashing down
Suspend. The amount of power required to keep RAM alive is negligent.
Suspend. The amount of power required to keep RAM alive is negligent.
I believe, based on context, that you mean to use the word “negligible.” The sentence means the opposite of what you intended it to mean if you use “negligent.” As in, “It would be negligent to waste that much power.”
I agree with negligent! Using suspend to ram for extended periods, eg nightly or over weekend will kill your battery life.
Power off because usually when I turn my laptop off, I’m going to be keeping it off for a long enough period of time that suspend would just not be worth the battery drain.
My work machine (Ubuntu) gets suspended at the end of the day during the week and shut down on Friday. It’s a good balance between keeping my many programs running and ready and cleaning up regularly.
I always shut down my desktop pc (Arch, btw) as it takes just a few seconds to boot up.
My laptop (Arch) I shut down because suspend never worked.
Power off to get the full security benefits of disk encryption.
I rip the plug out of the wall without warning. Gotta keep your machines on their toes or they’ll get too comfortable and start plotting against you.
Else it gets the cord again
I’ve had to start counseling sessions with my MongoDB. It thinks I’m conducting stress tests, but really I’m just maintaining discipline.
I know a real professional when I see one!
Yeah! Show them who’s boss.
Power off unless I’ll be using it again soon.
You guys are turning off your computers?
I am trying to be more energy conscious so I’ve been turning mine off more as of late, but ya in the past I typically left my machine up for 7 - 14 days and only power off/reboot after updating.
I remember older gaming forums where people would have their uptime in their post signatures.
Edit to add: upon reflection it was all the more impressive because almost all gaming PCs were Windows.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_formatting_and_storage_bugs
Microsoft Windows 95 and Windows 98 had a problem with rollovers in a virtual device driver, VTDAPI.VXD, which used unsigned 32-bit integers to measure system runtime in milliseconds; this value would overflow after 49.7 days, causing systems to freeze.[93]
The horrifying thing here isn’t just the bug, but that this made it into two major releases of Windows because the system was sufficiently-unstable that it wasn’t tracked down for years.
One area where desktop computers have come a very long way in the past 30 years is in OS stability.
Yep, that’s the right timeframe I was referring to.
My laptop, I’d just suspend to RAM, unless I was going somewhere without it for a couple of days or more.
The desktop is always on. The monitors suspend, but everything else is sucking power. I expect with frequency scaling, it’s not as bad as it used to be, but then, in ye oelden days I didn’t do nightly backups to the cloud and disc, or sync data between servers and run other odd, automated jobs.
That was my reaction, to the question, too.
I’m not sure what power down options my current (Linux) OS has. I just let the battery die sometimes like a normal person.
Edit: The battery management defaults are so good, I have to forget about it on a shelf for several days before it - well I don’t know what it does, because I’m ingoring it. Maybe it powers down, maybe it suspends, maybe it does some kind of emergency shut down…
I always power off any computers that I won’t be using anymore for the day. Be it desktops or laptops. My parents always taught me that leaving devices on (or even connected to power) when not using them was a fire hazard. Although I think it’s a bit overblown, powering off anything I don’t need has stuck as a habit and I see no reason to change it. With SSDs the startup time had become fast enough to make me stop caring. The wear and tear on the SSD is also not that big of an issue. My laptop and its SSD are from 2014 and have been subjected to the worst of my programming abilities, yet they still function fine.
Even without considering any firehazard I simply enjoy starting from a clean slate every time I start a pc.
Yeah that as well. Same with my browser. I tend to configure my browser such that it clears all open tabs when closed.
