• KDE Plasma 6 will require users to double-click on files and folders to open them by default.
  • This change is controversial for those familiar with single-click behavior in KDE Plasma.
  • Click behavior in KDE Plasma 6 is configurable, allowing users to choose between single-click and double-click.

https://archive.ph/BseL3


This is one of the first things I always tweak in KDE, so I love this change, but I’m curious how others feel.

  • Ephera@lemmy.ml
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    7 months ago

    My parents found single-click much more intuitive, because everything else (web browser, phone) uses single-click.

  • BreakDecks@lemmy.ml
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    7 months ago

    I honestly forgot that single-click is the default behavior in Plasma. I set up new desktop environments so rarely, and this is such an infuriating default behavior that I change it immediately. Glad to hear this is changing.

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      7 months ago

      Main reason is Distros reverting that anyways. It was always doubleclick on Kubuntu and Fedora KDE afaik

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    7 months ago

    Shame that they gave in to the haters, single click is great. Far more intuitive too, as you’d immediately tell if you ever had to guide your parents around a computer constantly reminding them in which arbitrary situation you’re meant to double click and in which to single click.

  • Pantherina@feddit.de
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    7 months ago

    For all those single-click fans:

    • how do you quickly rename a file?
    • how do you even drag-drop instead of opening stuff?
    • how do you select files?
    • how do you live?

    Saying “well kids use web stuff and Android and dont know what a single click is” is basically neglecting the use of a mouse. I love at least 3 buttons, hovering and fast clicks.

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      7 months ago

      I don’t use KDE but I suppose the click is detected on button release, not during the press. It should adress all these questions.

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          7 months ago

          Not in any KDE release I know, and I’ve been using it since KDE 3.

          Tested right this moment: if I press the mouse button down on a video, nothing happens. If I release it keeping the cursor within a ~5 pixel radius, the movie plays. If I move the cursor further than ~5 pixels, it begins a drag-and-drop operation.

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      7 months ago

      Q1: Select (see Q3) + F2

      Q2: Same way as double-click people. A file only opens if I click, not when I press the mouse button and drag the file around.

      Q3: I draw a small selection frame over it, or press the control key when clicking (I have the hand there any, especially if my next input will be Ctrl+C/X and Ctrl+V

      Q4: I just do. Sometimes I relax by playing shooters with the “invert mouse” option turned on :D

      I have never had a cell phone or smart phone in my life, single-click was the default when I switched to Linux, I gave it a try and I liked it.

    • arglebargle@lemm.ee
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      7 months ago

      Single click is so much better. Vastly superior.

      How do I live? Without carpal tunnel.

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      6 months ago
      • F2

      • Click and hold

      • Many ways, usually I just drag a box around the files. If there’s many in different places, ctrl + click

      • More convenient without having to double click everything lol

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      7 months ago
      • Ctrl + Click, F2
      • Just drag and drop the file
      • Ctrl + Click

      I prefer single click, but I agree that there are situations where double click is more convenient

      • Ephera@lemmy.ml
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        7 months ago

        It should throw up a prompt to ask, if you really want to run it. You might have disabled that…

          • Ephera@lemmy.ml
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            7 months ago

            I appreciate the joke, but well, yes. The difference being that it’s only for executables and you need to do click-move-click rather than the usual double-click, so it’s even harder to accidentally trigger.

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            no, because it only applies to executables.

            idk about you, but I only run executables from dolphin once every full moon, or so. And even if it was frequently, it doesn’t come close to the number of folders I open that only need a single click.

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              6 months ago

              I guess it depends on habits, then. I use them all the time. Not as much as folders, but enough that I would rather the 2 have the same behavior.

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        7 months ago

        Avoids misclicks from opening stuff by mistake just for that alone is worth it to me.

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          I personally never accidentally open with 1 click, since it is engraved into my brain that 1click=open just like it is engraved that 2clicks=open for people who use double click

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            I meant misclicks like clicking by mistake, like you clicked the item while trying to click something else or simply clicking by mistake the physical button of the mouse… Maybe uncommon… true but when it happens that a folder or full app opens is annoying.

  • visnudeva@lemmy.ml
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    7 months ago

    They can change the default settings as long as they leave the option to change it available.

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    7 months ago

    Kinda disappointed actually. It’s in my top ten best features if KDE. Single click is so much faster and easier. No other OS has gotten this right.

    As long as they dont take it away. But since most people now won’t know it’s there they are unlikely to find out just how great it is.

      • arglebargle@lemm.ee
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        7 months ago

        Windows had it for ages

        Windows single click never worked right. I don’t use the little check box or selection. I use both Windows and Linux, and windows stays in Double click even though I have been doing single on KDE since as long as I can remember.

  • penquin@lemm.ee
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    7 months ago

    I’m a single click person, but I welcome this change. Those who like single click already know where to change it. This is good for new users.

    • Eager Eagle@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      It makes file system navigation much faster and more pleasant imo, I’m definitely reverting this.

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          7 months ago

          There’s a little + that you can click on the icons.
          Or, you can use the keyboard arrows and spacebar.

          Not sure if there’s others.

          Edit: Just found another one actually. Middle-clicking selects without opening.
          This works better than the little + on the icons because the + behaves like a “ctrl-click.”

  • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
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    6 months ago

    I really like single click but since this is just about the new default then I don’t really care

  • KnoLord@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    I personally also welcome this change, as I have changed that setting anyway and of those people I know, they also changed that behaviour immediately. But as long as you can change it and it isn’t forced on you to only use one method, it’s great.

    • CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml
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      7 months ago

      Single-click and the little plus icons on everything in Dolphin are the first things I switch off after install for sure.

  • mrGarbanzo@beehaw.org
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    7 months ago

    This + some other quirks are what have kept me off KDE for a good while. I understand wanting to do things differently, possibly easier – but it’s hard to break old habits.

    • penquin@lemm.ee
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      7 months ago

      So instead of changing to double click from the settings, you switched DEs?

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          7 months ago

          I’m sorry, but this to me, sounds insane and kind of lazy. You can’t go to the settings and make a couple of changes??? People really can’t do that?

  • gnuplusmatt@reddthat.com
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    No one wins no matter what they choose. Those of us who have switched over to single click either now need to adapt or make the tweak.

    I guess this a good default for bringing over Windows converts

    • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
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      6 months ago

      Unless they’re overwriting our settings to defaults we really don’t need to do anything. This is for new installs.

  • themusicman@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    As someone who hasn’t touched KDE in years, can someone fill me in: How did you previously select a folder without opening it?

  • lemmytellyousomething@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    My problem with it: It was not consistent when using KDE:

    In Dolpin, it’s a single click…

    When downloading something in Firefox and choosing the location, it’s a double click.