Great list, thank! Have you seen children of the whale ? If my memory is correct it could make it on this list.
Also I don’t recall any weird stuff in Arcane season 1 (does it qualify as an anime though?).
Nope, but it’s on my watch list now. Top two recommendations on MAL are Land of the Lustrous and From the New World? I’ll watch it as soon as I finish Kurau
Yeah, they’re on the list but I understand it’s a long list
Loved em. Controversial opinion: I preferred '03 over Brotherhood. They made stronger narrative decisions, I prefer its Pride reveal over Brotherhood’s Wrath reveal (happening like 2/3rds into the show gave you a lot more time to build up trust in him before the reveal), and most of all I liked their homunculus origins better
It has problems, mostly notably trying too hard to be edgy at times, but the character interpretations and the work done to make it all a consistent world are pretty good.
Doesn’t violet ever garden have that weird relationship between the underage girl main character and the army guy (my apologies I haven’t see in it a while)
If you watch the english dub, it’s ambiguous enough to be interpreted as a father/daughter relationship. That’s also why I recommend skipping the movie
It would be cool if there was a movie though. Could be cool, as long as they didn’t decide to ship Violet with her slaver and also completely erase any character development she had re: learning to give up the Major and live her life for herself. How awful would that be?
Well perhaps they could do a movie focused on Violet working with another client, since that’s where the show always shined best. Maybe she should could tutor a young girl at a private academy or something. That might make for a good enough movie.
not all nudity is sexual in nature. haven’t seen lain yet, however iirc it has some themes of loosing ones sense of self which could justify having a pure (lacking in accessories/clothes) body.
From what I can tell from the context that is the intention in the Lain closing. Americans are such prudes they see nudity and assume sex. In the credits she’s curled into a fetal position so it’s not like it’s even provocative.
yea, she’s in a fetal position and surrounded by machinery all around her. it probably symbolises her being pure and natural juxtaposed to the computers around her, or (spoilers)
reveal
her being born from the Wired, as an extension of the computers surrounding her.
or something else, idk, the outro probably has multiple interpretations because it’s lain, so of course it would have.
Honest question: Assuming that you’re also referring to the creepy ripperdoc porn stuff. Is that really sexualizing the underage character? It does not seem to be something that is trying to make the character sexually attractive to the viewer. It does fit in with the hypersexualized setting and acknowledge that sexual thoughts and sexual identity don’t begin at age 18.
Showing minors in sexualy explicit situations, especially when its played off as a suprise gag and shows the actual content to the viewer, is sexualizing minors, yes. And the ripperdoc is still seen as a positive, to the point where David’s crisis of faith starts when he slams him against the wall when he’s beggining to psych-out and he feels bad, so it’s not like it really villianizes the character.
You keep using the setting like its a gotcha, but it doesn’t change anything by trying to shift the goalposts from the core of the conversation, about not sexualizing minors, i.e. not showing minors in sexually explicit situations, especially those meant to titilate the viewer. Feels akin to the “but she’s a 3000 year old dragon” arguements.
You can talk about coming of age topics and address the concepts without directly showing things on screen. Many pieces of media have done so without that, and do so with making clear the creep doing the grooming is not a positive character in the slightest.
Reposting from the last time this subject came up
Bolded titles are my top recs. Series listed in chronological order of my seeing them:
Steins;Gate (correction: episode 8 unfortunately has one character grope another one. Everyone rightfully calls him out for being a creepass)
Castlevania (shut up yes it is)
Vivy: Fluorite Eyes Song
Violet Evergarden (not the movie)
Hyouka (skip the ova)
Belle
A Silent Voice
Baccano
Deca-dence
Trigun
Akudama Drive
ACCA: 13 Territory Inspection Dept.
Fullmetal Alchemist
Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood
Spy Family
Mushishi
5 Centimeters Per Second
Afro Samurai
Your Lie In April
Nichijou
Odd Taxi
Cowboy Bebop
Canaan
Sk8 the Infinity
Supercrooks
Bocchi the Rock
House of Five Leaves
Weathering With You
Haibane Renmei
Samurai Flamenco
BNA
Redline
Planetes
Last Exile
Witch Hunter Robin
Noir
Wolf’s Rain
Boogiepop Phantom
Boogiepop And Others
Ghost In The Shell (all timelines)
Niea_7
Serial Experiments Lain
Megalo Box
Bakumatsu Kikansetsu Irohanihoheto
Samurai Champloo
Bubblegum Crisis
Ergo Proxy
Read Or Die (OVA and The TV)
Madlax
Moribito
Xam’d: Lost Memories
Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind
Kyousougiga
Orb: On the Movements of the Earth
Cyberpunk Edgerunners
Sonny Boy
Kiki’s Delivery Service
Thus concludes the exhaustive list of animes I’ve watched where I didn’t have to put up with any sexualization of minors
Great list, thank! Have you seen children of the whale ? If my memory is correct it could make it on this list. Also I don’t recall any weird stuff in Arcane season 1 (does it qualify as an anime though?).
Nope, but it’s on my watch list now. Top two recommendations on MAL are Land of the Lustrous and From the New World? I’ll watch it as soon as I finish Kurau
How has everyone forgotten about Gundam?
I was looking for someone to mention Ghost in the Shell and Cowboy Bebop.
What are your thoughts on Fullmetal Alchemist? I personally adore FMA: Brotherhood and I think it meets these criteria.
Yeah, they’re on the list but I understand it’s a long list
Loved em. Controversial opinion: I preferred '03 over Brotherhood. They made stronger narrative decisions, I prefer its Pride reveal over Brotherhood’s Wrath reveal (happening like 2/3rds into the show gave you a lot more time to build up trust in him before the reveal), and most of all I liked their homunculus origins better
Castlevania is one of those shows that has no right to be good and yet is just overall great.
It has problems, mostly notably trying too hard to be edgy at times, but the character interpretations and the work done to make it all a consistent world are pretty good.
The first season leaned way too hard on the gore. The show is at its best when characters are having calm discussions imo
Yeah, that’s one part of edgy for edgy’s sake IMO. The other being absurd dialogues from nowhere, e.g. random anecdotes about goat fuckers.
“doesnt sexualise underage character”
you sure this the list you wanted to paste here?
Do you have any disagreements?
This is an excellent list, Planetes is one I keep coming back to, I always have about it too anyone who will listen!
I’ll have to check out some of these others I haven’t seen.
Another good one is Monster, but it does have problematic relationships
I loved the Planetes manga, too bad it was so short
Doesn’t violet ever garden have that weird relationship between the underage girl main character and the army guy (my apologies I haven’t see in it a while)
If you watch the english dub, it’s ambiguous enough to be interpreted as a father/daughter relationship. That’s also why I recommend skipping the movie
Unfortunately, the movie is a lot less ambiguous.
But also the movie doesn’t exist lalalala it never happened lalalala I can’t hear you
It would be cool if there was a movie though. Could be cool, as long as they didn’t decide to ship Violet with her slaver and also completely erase any character development she had re: learning to give up the Major and live her life for herself. How awful would that be?
Well perhaps they could do a movie focused on Violet working with another client, since that’s where the show always shined best. Maybe she should could tutor a young girl at a private academy or something. That might make for a good enough movie.
Kotaro lives alone? Thought it was quite lovely.
It is now on my watch list
Isn’t the outro for that a naked Lain, who is in middle school?
not all nudity is sexual in nature. haven’t seen lain yet, however iirc it has some themes of loosing ones sense of self which could justify having a pure (lacking in accessories/clothes) body.
From what I can tell from the context that is the intention in the Lain closing. Americans are such prudes they see nudity and assume sex. In the credits she’s curled into a fetal position so it’s not like it’s even provocative.
yea, she’s in a fetal position and surrounded by machinery all around her. it probably symbolises her being pure and natural juxtaposed to the computers around her, or (spoilers)
reveal
her being born from the Wired, as an extension of the computers surrounding her.
or something else, idk, the outro probably has multiple interpretations because it’s lain, so of course it would have.
but like yea, nudity != sexualization.
Edgerunners had that creep grooming David by sending him porn as a minor, and its just glossed over.
thematically appropriate for the setting. Night city is fucking horrible, and no one should pretend that it isn’t.
also, i just watched that, like, within the last couple hours recently.
The relationship between lucy and david feels kinda forced, but other than that, 9/10 no notes.
Gives three notes, claims no notes at the end.
*no additional notes
The question isn’t things being thematically appropriate. The question is animes that don’t sexualize minors, and Edgerunners fails at that.
Honest question: Assuming that you’re also referring to the creepy ripperdoc porn stuff. Is that really sexualizing the underage character? It does not seem to be something that is trying to make the character sexually attractive to the viewer. It does fit in with the hypersexualized setting and acknowledge that sexual thoughts and sexual identity don’t begin at age 18.
Showing minors in sexualy explicit situations, especially when its played off as a suprise gag and shows the actual content to the viewer, is sexualizing minors, yes. And the ripperdoc is still seen as a positive, to the point where David’s crisis of faith starts when he slams him against the wall when he’s beggining to psych-out and he feels bad, so it’s not like it really villianizes the character.
You keep using the setting like its a gotcha, but it doesn’t change anything by trying to shift the goalposts from the core of the conversation, about not sexualizing minors, i.e. not showing minors in sexually explicit situations, especially those meant to titilate the viewer. Feels akin to the “but she’s a 3000 year old dragon” arguements.
You can talk about coming of age topics and address the concepts without directly showing things on screen. Many pieces of media have done so without that, and do so with making clear the creep doing the grooming is not a positive character in the slightest.
Been a minute since I watched it. You talking about the BD producer? Because that shit super ain’t glorified lmao
David’s ripperdoc shares porn with him.
Thank you! I’ve been wanting to get into anime (more than just DBZ), but I’m never sure where to start
damn that’s a good list. I recognize some of those names
Add Onihei (iirc)
It’s on my watch list now, will probably make it onto this list next time the topic comes up