• partial_accumen@lemmy.world
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    23 hours ago

    He dislikes the right in his country which ruled for 13 years and voted centre left, but supports Trump and right wing parties in Europe because of too much immigration in the West

    If feels like you’re burying the lede here.

    “In his country” suggests he’s an immigrant. This means he too, is an immigrant right? How does he resolve this hypocrisy? Or when he says “too much immigration in the West” is he just a racist and is referring to people with different color skin?

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      22 hours ago

      “In his country” suggests he’s an immigrant. This means he too, is an immigrant right? How does he resolve this hypocrisy?

      Duh, because he’s one of the good immigrants.

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        19 hours ago

        To be fair, there are two different kinds of immigration: legal and illegal. Some (not all, but some) immigrants who came via the proper legal channels resent those who didn’t, and of those who feel that way, some feel that way for selfish “screw you, I got mine” reasons and others feel that way for genuine reasons, such as the fact that supporting illegal immigration is, to a certain extent, supporting the human trafficking and drug trafficking that goes hand-in-hand with it. Borders do serve a purpose and believing that illegal immigration should be curtailed isn’t necessarily a hypocritical position for an immigrant.

        HOWEVER, that isn’t to say that ICE is the answer.

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      22 hours ago

      Or the person you’re replying to, talking about an EX-house mate is the the immigrant. You’re reading suggestions that aren’t there.

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        19 hours ago

        There are two possible scenarios for who is the immigrant. Both of them make the ex-housemate look like an asshole.

        The other that you’re referring to would mean the housemate was complaining about OP, as OP was the immigrant that he says there is too much of. I mean its possible, but I wouldn’t expect OP to then say “My ex-housemate means well for the most part”.

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          We are both immigrants. But my ex-housemate is Eastern European while I am of Asian origin but I grew up in the West.

          My ex-housemate is nice and helped me a lot before. But I don’t know if you are aware of the stereotype about Eastern Europeans that they can be xenophobic. The only diversity they have is with fellow white Eastern Europeans with different ethnicities and speaking different languages. They tend to misunderstand why the West is more welcoming of non-white immigrants (I don’t have to mention the West having had a globe spanning empire before which explains why). So, my ex-housemate exhibit some xenophobia. I am mentioning the term lightly because IMO xenophobia is one level lower than racism, which I see more as hateful and purposeful. I know some people who express xenophobia are tolerant to foreigners but seems to draw a line that “there are too many” (as if we can control where people want to go; and it is climate change, illegal invasions and wealth inequality are what cause mass migration). My ex-housemate express similar sentiment but afraid coming off as racist in all occasions.

          I am neither disparaging or excusing my ex-housemate, but IMO being a lonely, single man made him go into the right wing rabbit hole, perhaps unintentionally, considering he does a lot of exercise and fitness. Unfortunately, the right co-opted the health and wellbeing improvement to groom many people, both men and women. It leads confusion to many people’s heads who are not quite fully on board.