People on Lemmy sure are just pissed off all the time huh? This is an interesting project at the very least and highlights just how difficult it is to truly make something in America, and does a decent job of explaining why it’s bad that it’s that difficult. Y’all need to just chill.
Constant purity testing, and invalidating everything someone says because you disagree on a couple issues 💀
There are six components to this grill scrubber and at least two are from foreign source. The chain mail is from China and the top knob is from Costa Rica. He also said the handle string is of unknown source. I’m bit disappointed that he just slapped a Made in USA label on it and called it good. For 75 dollars I expect a bit better.
I wish Destine broke down the cost of every component of the scrubber and how he ended up with the $75 price tag at the end. He did that with the chain mail but didn’t discuss the cost associated with any other part of the process. That leads me to believe this video was more leaning towards making money rather actually trying to get to the bottom of problem with manufacturing a product in the US. Sadly I’m left disappointed.
I think thats a kinda dumb purity test when they clearly did put a lot of effort into actually trying, and I don’t see why its better if they threw away the supply they already mistakenly bought.
No I’m not suggesting that he throw away perfectly good materials. I disagree that he put a lot of effort into really trying. There was little to no follow up after discovering the parts weren’t from US. There was no attempt to contact the American chain mail supplier about limited capacity. Why is it that they can only supply so little amount? What would it take to increase capacity? Is it lack of people, machinery or investment? We don’t know because it wasn’t in the video. Same thing with the knobs that came from Costa Rica. There was no follow up. He didn’t even try to source knobs made locally. He just said he will later. He started out the video sounding like he was determined to figure out a way to complete the task of trying to make a product made locally but he kinda just gave up and decided to just ship the product as is. The video was suppose to be an education focused but it slowly turned into a marketing video. I find that disappointing.
His point about investing in the pricier, good quality product instead of periodically paying for the cheaper, bad quality product, only makes sense if you have a guarantee the pricier product actually have a good quality. And that’s not the only thing that matters. Companies like Malus claim to have better quality and we can debate that all day, but what’s undeniable is their anti-repair stance. That means you can have a problem with their product and have to buy a new one anyway because it can’t be repaired.
I actually agree, it was one small problem I had with the video, he portrays the Boots theory of socio-economic unfairness as a basic “buy once cry once” thing, when really it’s about how being poor is expensive. It doesn’t matter if over the course of 5 years it makes sense to pay 4 times the cost for a product that lasts 5 times longer, it’s that poor people can’t afford a 4x cost product. Most people understand that quality stuff lasts longer, but it doesn’t matter if you can’t pay it and you need boots.
That and there have been companies that had good product, but then got bought out. Only afterwards, they reduce product quality to the point of being some of the worst on the market.
These vulture capitalists are hoping that the brand recognition of what was once a good product keeps the company afloat long enough for them to rot away and consume the company from the inside.
Prime example: Craftsman hand tools.
When I was a kid, everyone had them. Worked well, lifetime warranty, yet much less expensive than professional tools
Last decade: cheap crap, work poorly, fall apart, essentially no warranty. Poor reputation: do not buy regardless of any sale. Yet more expensive after inflation
Fucking A. Printers back in the days used to just print and had refillable ink cartridges. Some expensive ones are still chugging. My dad has one from the 90s that still fucking works. The new one we got cries about colour missing when trying to print a black n white page 😩
The printer I had in the 90s wouldn’t print black and white without color ink either.
Yep I agree. I don’t think he was saying that being pricier guarantees its better quality, just that something better quality may be worth it even if it is pricier.
I would consider repair and upgrade-ability to be a part of quality.
There are lots of places where I would pay for better quality but don’t because I can’t tell if there is any such thing
100% my problem. My mom bought a sewing machine about 4 decades ago and it still works to this day. It cost her a fortune, but it paid off. Sewing machines nowadays have all kinds of fancy electronics in there and if it fails, you’re fucked. I don’t even know if paying more really gets you a better quality sewing machine…
I haven’t forgotten Destin trying to push his creationist agenda using his YouTube platform. He makes a lot of good content, but after that I don’t want to watch his stuff anymore. Fuck him for doing something like that.
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He is also a staunch Republican, and a Trump supporter. I like some of his videos, but most of them are cringe if you’re actually knowledgeable about the topic he is covering. He researches a topic just enough to come across as the smartest person in the room, while dumbing down concepts and talking down to the audience like we’re infants. You can tell his target audience are poorly educated and easily impressed people from rural America.
In the video where he’s shooting antique guns (or something) with his son, his son always calls him “sir”. Is that a regional thing? It seemed super weird to me.
I noticed the same thing, and you could see it a bit in this (OP) video too.
I think this one is partly regional and partly traditional.
Destin probably always called his father sir, and he probably has the same expectation of his children.
Oh, I casually watched his videos and I could tolerate 1 or 2 of these stances but all 3, yeah if that’s true it’s time to unsubscribe
I watched this video in its entirety and it made me profoundly uncomfortable.
There was a lot of subtext that seems edited out. Yes he’s “humble” in some respects but he’s also willfully ignorant in others, or at least presents as such.
I would not be surprised if in a few years he goes off the deep end.
I also watched the whole thing, and have to imagine that a lot of xenophobic stuff was edited out when they found out their chainmail from India was actually from China. That section was so cringe, they had someone on earlier who spoke Chinese, why not ask him what it meant or research some more, than make assumptions and air that lightly filtered.
I get he’s making a point to invest in local manufacturing, but then knowingly having the excess supply of chainmail come from India defeats the point he’s trying to make. Considering the handle for the first 2000 are from costa rica and the excess chainmail after the 2000 units was at least thought to be from India, it seems rare anything being sold is 100% Made in America, yet has a price tag 4x as much.
Yea I watched it too and had the exact same response to the Indian chainmail.
He wants to make his product completely in America. Ok sure. He can’t. Ok sucks. Decides he’s actually just trying not to buy any Chinese components instead… ok what?
The other bit I thought that was kinda weird was that if he’s so interested in bringing back this manufacturing capacity to Americans, then, do that.
It’s an entire video about him trying to manufacture something without manufacturing it. Outsourcing every single component to a vendor as long as it’s an American vendor.
You want more people that know how to make tools and dies, hire some dude to do that, make it economically feasible for people to do that by having good stable jobs that do that at your brush factory.
I found the whole video kinda offputting in this way. It sure would be great if he could just magically find this manufacturing capacity sitting idle in America and exploit it to make his brush.
I pretty strongly disagree with that characterization, at least for the manufacturing videos I watched, that I do have experience in. I appreciate how deferential and humble he is to people in his videos even if they’re showing a job that is relatively unremarkable to most people.
I also think
poorly educated and easily impressed people from rural America.
is a pretty mean spirited and stereotype-based thing to say.
poorly educated and easily impressed people from rural America.
is a pretty mean spirited and stereotype-based thing to say.
Also his target audience is anyone poorly educated and easily impressed regardless of where they’re from. 😅
Really ? he is a Trump supporter ? I know him only from his videos, but that seems out of character for someone versed in the sciences and reasoning. Can you provide a source ? I don’t want to support him with views anymore if that’s true
This. I’d be super surprised because he’s an intellectual who likes to understand the hows and whys of things. I really enjoy his content (especially his helicopter series). If he’s maga then I’ll definitely not watch another.
I don’t know what flubba86@lemmy.world is talking about, but the whole premise of this video seems quite trumpian.
How is bringing back foreign manufacturing a MAGA thing?
This is essentially the whole selfhosting community doing the same thing with cloud services. And I wouldnt in my dreams vote for our country equivalent of the republicans.
The video linked here ? I watched it yesterday, not at all. It’s about manufacturing in the USA. He makes great points that are valid for any service-based economy such as most of western Europe (where I am from). Watch it, it’s good
The premise that countries need to be self reliant and manufacture things locally seems like trump rhetoric to me. But yeah I don’t imagine he’d be a big supporter of Trump more generally with all the cuts to science research Trump is doing. And I didn’t bother watching much further into the video once I realized he was shilling his own product.
I’ve been following him for years and I don’t really remember him pushing any narrative except the bible verse references at the end, can you be more specific?
It’s obvious he’s religious but he’s a great educator and host so unless it’s affecting his videos, I don’t care what he does with his free time.
I’ve responded with a link in another reply in this thread.
C can you link to that reply?
When did he do that?
And, if someone has a sincerely held moral belief and they honestly believe other people’s lives would be made better if they heard it, then how is is not morally good from their perspective?
He can believe what he wants in his personal time. He can even use his platform to spread his beliefs. However being all about science and then pushing some weird agenda is a whole other thing. He betrayed the trust, so I choose not to watch his stuff anymore.
It was this video: https://youtu.be/VPSm9gJkPxU
When this video went up it caused quite a fuss online as Destin seems to heavily push an old debunked intelligent design narrative around flagella.
I’m curious to see the creationist stuff but I’ll be honest, I don’t want to listen to him for a half hour. Is there a time stamp I can skip to?
He literally says that there’s a lot of good research being done trying to find the evolutionary mechanism. Nowhere that I saw at least did he push creationism, other than mentioning that the concept exists, and that he believes in god.
Well, I don’t think it’s worth repeating the debate again. You can go back and look at what was posted back when it came out.
But he tells a very one sided story and keeps telling to keep an open mind. He presents this thing as if it’s totally unique and amazing, where there are very similar structures in nature out there. He also heavily focuses on the idea of it being a motor in the way that a human designed motor works, giving the same names to parts which are kind of similar on a surface level but really aren’t. He also repeats all of the bible thumper talking points around this subject, as if it’s a mystery nobody can explain and couldn’t have come to be without some kind of intelligent design at the helm. But the reality is, this is not representing the reality at all. This whole flagella thing was an exercise of goal post moving in the first place. The ID people kept pointing out weird things and missing links. Then when science explained exactly how that thing came to be, without ID involved, they just pointed to the next thing at one point ending up at flagella.
There is a whole Wikipedia page talking about how flagella evolved and how it came to be. The intelligent design people have been shouting about this for 3 decades now and there is so much info out there to find about how this came to be. If Destin wanted to approach this from a scientific standpoint, he would focus on that information, instead of presenting it like some kind of mystery we are still figuring it out today. And not keep telling people to have an open mind and how he can’t figure it out. He could have even gone into why people might think it was ID and then explain the science why it is not. Something other online science communicators often do, give people the points they have been hearing from the “wrong” side and then go into those points and explain them.
Basically the whole subject itself is very hard to present without going into the whole ID versus evolution standpoint and the way he represented it was straight out of the ID playbook. And keep in mind all of this was thoroughly debunked back 20 years ago. Him bringing this up now is inexcusable.
I’m not even sure there is research still being done on this, the research was done decades before, there is no mystery.
He also repeats all of the bible thumper talking points around this subject, as if it’s a mystery nobody can explain and couldn’t have come to be without some kind of intelligent design at the helm.
He literally does not say that though, he says there’s a lot of research into it and encourages people to read it.
This whole flagella thing was an exercise of goal post moving in the first place. The ID people kept pointing out weird things and missing links. Then when science explained exactly how that thing came to be, without ID involved, they just pointed to the next thing at one point ending up at flagella.
Yeah I agree, but I also think that you can’t exactly blame someone else who was uninvolved with the initial argument for arguing a different thing at a different time. If one person criticizes a politician for not providing enough social services and another separate person complains about taxes that’s not moving goal posts, those are just two different people.
There is a whole Wikipedia page talking about how flagella evolved and how it came to be.
Yes, but, did you read it? Its not exactly too resoundingly confident in any one theory.
And keep in mind all of this was thoroughly debunked back 20 years ago.
All of what? It is true that the flagella isn’t unique if that’s what you mean.
I’m not even sure there is research still being done on this, the research was done decades before, there is no mystery.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/mmi.14658
Here’s a relatively recent study that says basically what the wikipedia says:
Homing in on the T3SS, the exact evolutionary relation between injectisomes and flagella1 is debated. Phylogenetic analyses and functional arguments led to two models: (a) The evolution of modern flagella and injectisomes from a common ancestral protein export machinery (Gophna et al., 2003; Pallen and Gophna, 2007), or (b) The evolution of injectisomes from a flagellum-like ancestor (Abby and Rocha, 2012; Denise et al., 2020; Nguyen et al., 2000).
But it also says:
The T3SS is one of the most complex bacterial molecular machines, incorporating one to over a hundred copies of more than 15 different proteins into a multi-MDa transmembrane complex (Table 1). The system, especially the flagellum, has, therefore often been quoted as an example for “irreducible complexity,” based on the argument that the evolution of such a complex system with no beneficial intermediates would be exceedingly unlikely. However, it is now clear that, far from having evolved as independent entities, many secretion systems share components between each other and with other cellular machineries (Egelman, 2010; Pallen and Gophna, 2007).
I ofc am just a layman reading this, I agree it seems better understood that how I interpreted what he was saying, but it also doesn’t seem nearly as well understood as you’re saying.
I’m not going to debate Intelligent Design in 2025, that’s just dumb.
The whole thing boils down to: Just because we don’t fully understand it, doesn’t mean it’s proof of god.
You’re thinking I’m saying something I’m not. And I think that was the case with your interpretation of the video too.
Nothing I’ve said here (or ever said in my life) is pro-intelligent design
Thanks for sharing. He does sound like a devout Christian who does believe in a creator, but because of science is questioning his beliefs. It would’ve been nice for him to keep that opinion out of the video and just stick to the point: this thing is awesome.
As an atheist agnostic myself, I don’t think anybody can claim to know that there was a creator or not. However, there is much more evidence for the lack of one than for it. Who knows, we might be wrong and we’re just in some intricate simulation created by sentient beings, but that then forces the question if those sentient beings are in a simulation themselves and how far up does it go? The other option is that nothing was created and it just came to be.
Both options still raise the question of how either (creators or existence) came to be. To me, they might be unknowable.
What I do like about his presentation of the options is that he says wherever your flag is, learn more and always question your position. IMO that’s actually sound advice. Nothing is for certain. Neither scientists nor believers can claim to know anything for certain. The difference between science and religion is that science is a process of learning with need to discard incorrect knowledge, while religion is the claim to know everything claiming there is no need to disregard facts as it is impossible for them to be wrong. Scientists can easily fall into the latter trap too.
how is is not morally good from their perspective?
It is, but thier perspective is immoral.
Yeah that’s a fair perspective I have. I just don’t like when people aren’t honest about their problem with it because they want to act like they’re okay with religion.
I think religion is ok, as long as it isn’t evangelical or spreading anti-intellectualism.
Well aren’t many religions inherently by their beliefs one of those things?
Believe can cross into delusion and become harmfull. I believe (hihi) creationism is part of the latter, as it also implies a hierarchy inbetween people and between people and other life.
Additionally, all evidence points away from intelligent design. For this youtube channel in particular, it’s sad to see examples of belief over evidence.
Fundamentally isn’t any religious belief in an omnipotent/world creating god creationist? I think the evidence trying to “prove” intelligent design is pretty weak, but the thing about essentially all religious belief is that its not exactly falsifiable. The argument can basically be as simple as “yes that evolved but god created everything in the world so it would evolve that way” or “no it didn’t evolve, god created the world 5000 years ago, he just also made stuff that to any observer would appear older. he did that to intentionally obfuscate the truth so you must have faith”
Fundamentally isn’t any religious belief in an omnipotent/world creating god creationist?
Oh yeah. This isn’t a problem unique to Christianity.
but the thing about essentially all religious belief is that its not exactly falsifiable
I think the function of a belief system is to lessen fear in scary, doubtfull, uncertain, painfull situations. That’s when an unfalsifiable happy ending brings comfort.
It’s just that many of them were invented quite a while ago, and some things that used to be unknown and scary then, are now better understood or obsolete. No point in engaging in makebelief for those.
Yeah, but it seems like for a lot of people they either have to believe all of it or none of it
I notice the same. A sad observation in my opinion.
Do you have a source? I’d find it really ironic for a channel called “smarter every day” to push a creationist agenda.
I’ve responded with a link in another reply in this thread.
Seems Destin missed that day and got dumber instead.
Hey it’s me a tool and die maker.
I can say at least that my company and the larger manufacturers in my town are spending enormous sums of cash getting students in to the trades. It’s not just tool and die that’s suffering, most of the “skilled” trades are bordering on geriatric.
A lot of the kids entering the trades are farm kids, which is another problem entirely. The average age of farmers in the US is close to retirement too.
That makes me so happy to hear! I kept thinking that during this video, that he’s putting the cart before the horse. Made in America is important sure but the cost is significantly more which is problematic when you’re an working class person who literally doesn’t have the cash to buy American made, we need to be sending our young people back to trades not say everyone needs college! I’m a 2004 Graduate and so many people in my class went into so much debt and for what? A barely above minimum wage desk job? I was a pariah for not going to college but going to a tech school.
If we don’t have young people in these trades, making fair wages, we have no middle class and if we have no middle class he’s going to run out of $75 scrub brush buyers sooner rather than later.
The video got really close to being a dog whistle to me a few times he did mention he wanted to talk about unions, then didn’t, I just felt like there was so much focus on “manufacturing is actually good for the US” - and it is, I’m a leftie but I agree we do want some manufacturing jobs, especially the high skilled ones, but almost no focus on how we keep these industries alive, and grow them, and how important it is that young people can access this training and why it’s important to bring education into the conversations about “made in America” - high skill manufacturing isn’t going to sprout up over night, it’s why he struggled so hard to source parts, and the video very much framed this industry as something that is an organic industry that will just be there if we buy it… which feels dishonest if we look at the bigger picture and all the lack of both knowledge and experience that will really make this industry struggle
I feel like to get a lot of young people into it, it doesn’t just need pay, but also some of the comforts of other jobs. As in: if I can work from home vs going into a workshop from 9-5 5 days a week, even if I’d be paid more I’d prefer to work from home. Other jobs can offer perks like that, but for a lot of manufacturing jobs that’s clearly not an option- so many reduced working hours/days would work. But I think when there’s already a shortage on employees, companies don’t want to also cut down on the hours they’re working.
That’s kind of a pipe dream.
The reality of manufacturing is that unless people are physically in the building, the business isn’t making money. Tool and die is largely a support role. We’re not just making the tooling, we’re making sure the press is still running all day.
That means that if the machine is running, we have to be here. The machine has to run frequently to make sense. They’re simply aren’t enough people for a 4 shift rotation, which is what we’d need to have reduced hours. We struggle to fill 2. Right now we’re running 3 maintenance shifts and 2 production, and that’s more than most manufacturers near me can handle. The labor just isn’t there. We’ve tried 4x10 shifts and that’s difficult to sell to 2nd and 3rd shifters. About half of first shift couldn’t make it work. But it didn’t really matter, ultimately.
The reality is that most of the building is working 5 ten hour shifts and a 6 hour Saturday for the foreseeable future. Could we attract young people with fewer hours? Maybe. It’s manufacturing and it’s a hard sell regardless. I love my job, I work with a lot of people who love their jobs, and that includes guys on the floor who do little more than plug parts in to machines. It can be immensely satisfying work, but it’s hard, dirty, and loud. Ask 50 teenagers if they’d rather stand next to a punch press every day or throw burgers out of windows through college, 49 are gonna throw burgers.
Sounds like people need to take an interest and the only way to do that is make them happy or make them money. Paying more will put bodies at stations and make them want to be on-site for as long as they get paid. The rest is people management.
And, don’t forget the magic word: unionize.
You could offer more money, better benefits, better/shorter hours, vacation time, parental leave etc. I’ve heard young people are really motivated by all of those things
This feels like “we’ve tried nothing and we’re all out of ideas”
Also one out of 50 across a population is more than enough young people, they’re not working for you because you’re not making it worth their
Climate Town made a similar episode for their tshirt as well, which he struggle to find a tshirt maker that is fully locally made to reduce the climate impact.
Watched the video yesterday. I think it does a good job at describing the reality, and it’s consequences.
The causes and solutions are left as an exercise for the reader
I think not going into that a little bit, like “education will be a key component to this industry’s survival and success” is a missed opportunity because that is also the reality. Reality includes causes, this didn’t happen in a vacuum.
As for solutions, beyond advocating for education and endorsing unions or something else equally broad, no he’s definitely not obligated to go into that
Yeah, I was involved in injection moulding profesionally - on a customer side, just like Destin. Situation in Europe is very similar. While you can produce competitevly in Europe, to produce a mould most people go to China. Cheaper, faster, and just as good quality.
What a load of MAGA propaganda. Saying American made products are good quality. Ehm. No, they aren’t. They are usually shit quality and aren’t allowed in Europe because they are dangerous / toxic. It’s overpriced junk.
Also his product looks shit. It’s a combination of hard and soft materials. That means there are several weak points. The metal handle is connected with a single screw in plastic. The plastic will break and the sponge will wear really fast.
American producers need to cut costs, otherwise their already overpriced product will be insanely expensive. In China they have cheap labor, in the US they can only cut costs with cheaper materials and importing from China. When they don’t import, they will have to be creative by using less material and cheaper stuff. Poorly regulated, toxic material for example. Softer metals / plastics. While in China they don’t have to import most of their material, or it comes from neighboring countries. Chinese products are actually of better quality than American ones these days.
I remember buying my first Leatherman, a long time ago. The blade is made of extra hardened steel, it’s impossible to dent it. I recently bought the new flagship Leatherman, for 300 euros. The blade got dented while cutting cardboard. The multitool I bought on aliexpress for 20 euros has a hardened steel blade and doesn’t dent at all.
Now Trump is angry becssue the EU won’t take poor quality American products. Like chicken for example, in Europe American chicken is concidered toxic.
Chinese EV’s have surpassed American EV’s by a long shot now.
The time of Chinese products being shit has passed. It’s a struggle for European companies to compete. The time of American products being shit is now.
The smarter everyday videos do not fit their YouTube name anymore. I used to love his videos but for several years already it has become propaganda junk. He’s just a MAGA hillbilly who thinks he’s super smart.
Youre just as delusional as MAGA people, just the other direction. Please don’t exaggerate and portray someone as way more political than they are, that’s what got us into the Trump mess. Try some empathy
Are you aware he’s a creationist, a republican and a Trump supporter? And this video about producing locally, the thing Trump tries to do with his tariff wars, isn’t political? What got us into this Trump mess is people not seeing the political views in the content they see, believing anything they see and becoming pro Trump as they are constantly being fed MAGA propaganda. You not being able to see what this channel is trying to do is the issue with why fake news is having such an insane success rate.
But who am I, really. I’m only an OSINT analyst specialized in fact checking and analyzing fake news narrative in media and it’s effects on the targeted crowd. See this article I was the leading researcher.
I mean one of the first lines is “manufacturing locally guarantees your freedom”
That just rubs me the wrong way. Isolationism at any cost guarantees “freedom”?
You missed the point. Isolation isn’t what guarantees freedom, it’s self sufficiency. The ability to rely on yourself makes you resilient to change. It doesn’t mean cutting off friends.
What’s the line of self sufficient? I remember a story about a guy who made a BLT sandwich from scratch, it took him 6 months and thousands of dollars. Sure he was self sufficient, but it’s not sustainable to produce 100% of everything yourself. In the Smarter Everyday video, almost everything was supplied from another vendor, and there was no mention on where the raw materials came from to make the parts made in the America. If anything, being able to supply the chain mail from China (via India) allowed the production to be resilient to change.
This is one, quite simple product we’re talking about, and they still haven’t achieved the goals before bringing product to market. I don’t hear him saying “nothing should be produced in China anymore” but rather " we mustn’t forget how to do shit ourselves".
And how much trouble are we Europeans in because of our reliance on American software and computing services?
I think you’re missing the point of the video.
The video looks like it’s meant to highlight the US being reliant on other countries when that used to not be the case.
Die and tooling jobs were once more prevalent in the US, now it’s very hard to come by which makes us much more reliant on foreign countries like China.
Yeah, it’s called trade. Trade is good for the economy. Every economist will tell you that. But feel free to follow Trump, who says the economy will be better when everything is made in the US.
We all rely on each other. International trade has never been on a larger scale as it is right now. You can’t have a complete production line in a single country. Like Nintendo said, it would cost billions to set up their entire production line of the swith 2 in the US, and even when they would try it would be impossible to do it a 100%. Resources come from all over the world. Rare earth metals are being imported into Taiwan, chips are being produced which are being imported into Japan. The chip machines are made in the Netherlands, which buys its resources from other European countries, the US, Asian countries like China. This is the entire process just to produce a chip. There’s an entire different international production line for just the screens, as well as all the other parts.
Back in the days you needed copper for wiring and plastics to mold, and you basically had a rotary phone. Easy to produce in a single country. Not comparable to phones these days. Trading was expensive back then. These days trading is cheap. Beleving everything needs to be made in the US using US raw resources is completely dillusional. Like Trump.
Even for simple products like a grill scraper, the most economically efficient way is to use the international market. It might not feel nice to be reliant on other countries, especially when you start trade wars with everyone and make everyone your enemy. Look at Russia, and the European reliance on them with gass, oil and rare earth metals. Even now we buy Russian stuff, even though we don’t want to. The alternative is to destroy our economy, like the US is doing right now. It isn’t fun, but it’s the reality. We slowly need to find substitutes. For that we can’t just say we will do it ourselves, we need to look for new sources elsewhere.
The world isn’t as simple as it was the 19th and early 20th century. You can’t compare it to our current economy, products and lifestyles.
I’m not saying make all things here, I didn’t even say that in my last comment… Nor do I agree with Trump overall, basically nothing.
Do you ever make your own food at home? By your reasoning, commerce and trade is good, never make food at home again. Never learn a skill, call an electrician, HVAC, or plumber. Never learn to fix your own things or solve your own problems if there is someone out there who can do it instead.
Trade is good, being completely reliant on another country to deliver the things you need is bad. Especially if you have no idea how to make the things you need. What’s doubly bad is relying on a country that says they want to be ready to go to war with you in three years.
Trade is good, but we need to know how to make the stuff we rely on daily. If WW3 were to start, and we were to get cut off from our trading partners, we need to know how to make the things we require to continue to exist. I don’t think the video is trying to convince us to never buy another foreign product. I think it’s telling us we need to retain the knowledge that is required to make things in the US, so the country doesn’t grind to a halt in the event of an emergency.
Agreed with this, but I don’t think it was entirely the point of Destin’s video, as more of his focus was about keeping jobs local to the United States. Unfortunately his bit at the end about companies spending more money for local manufacturing is not how Wall Street works, and that’s all corporations care about. If from a national standpoint, retaining this knowledge is vital to the security of the country, the government should be investing in keeping that production in the countries via tax subsidies or other incentives. Corporations won’t do it on their own if it means less profit for them, and imposing tariffs will just be passed to the citizens with no industrial gain.
lol ok
