Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth at his confirmation hearing refused to rule out opening fire on protesters if Trump ordered it.
As Donald Trump ramps up his use of the military to quell domestic dissent, he has on his side a Pentagon chief apparently ready to carry out any order Trump gives him, possibly including a potentially illegal one to shoot American citizens.
Pete Hegseth, specifically asked during his January confirmation hearing whether he would have obeyed a 2020 Trump demand to shoot protesters — as Trump had wanted then-Secretary Mark Esper to do in his first term — would not answer and instead dodged the question.
On Monday, even as California Gov. Gavin Newsom sued Trump and Hegseth to rescind the deployment because he had not requested it, as he said the law requires, Trump escalated the situation by adding 700 Marines, a full battalion, to the mix.
It is unclear what, precisely, they can accomplish. Federal law prohibits them from arresting people unless Trump were to invoke the 1807 Insurrection Act. While he has referred to the protesters as “insurrectionists” multiple times, he has not used his authority to declare the riot an “insurrection” against the United States, which would suggest that the participants are trying to overthrow the national government.
I’m a British veteran and from the first day if basic training your are told over and over and over not to follow an illegal order, honestly sending in the marines would prob be better for the public than the pigs troops are from shit holes and just needed the money most of the yanks I worked with would never fire on protesters.
But you know I might be wrong.
I’d like to hope you’re not wrong. When I was in, honor, integrity, and empathy were tenants put above duty to any one person. I’ve seen a lot of this anti-soldier sentiment coming in the wake of the CNG being deployed to LA. As far as I have seen, there have been no instances of the California National Guard acting out of line according to the UCMJ. I don’t expect all of the men and women, currently serving, to honor their oath as this country has been fed a steady stream of hateful and vitriolic propaganda from all forms of available media, mainstream and social. However, I have to believe those who commit atrocities will be the minority, not the majority.
Let’s hope there are vets in the crowd to remind them that their oath is to a principal and not a “man.”
Bombing schools and weddings in the Middle East and Africa is also illegal but that never stopped the US military.
It’s easy to sit in a computer chair and cast a wide net of indignation across an entire band of people from all manners of background and culture. If you’ve never served, then you’re just a puppet for whatever the media has fed you. If you’re in the US, the same people you’re shitting all over may be the only thing that stands between you and LEOs that would love nothing more than to get another gun to aim your way.
Everyone. Is. Capable. Of. Evil. You are not immune to propaganda.
Facts mate I know people fairly senior who I belive will do the right thing when the time comes I worked with them in iraq and stay In touch there just like you but with a weird job there’s idiots every where but there’s enough good to fight them
I will admit, sadly, the current propaganda machines have poisoned the minds of so many servicemen. The popularity of tRump within their ranks is higher than I would like to see, given the blatant demegogory displayed by him at every turn. Still, I hold out hope we see good triumph over evil when this all inevitably goes tits up.
What I wouldn’t give to be anywhere else than the states nowadays! I feel like just the headlines take a day off my life, anymore.