• seven_phone@lemmy.world
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    Iran has recently been reported as failing to meet its nuclear non-proliferation obligations and this is undoubtedly the reason Israel describes these strikes as pre-emptive.

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      I wonder why they would want nuclear weapons. It might be because people keep bombing them.

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        They started the program on the first government change after Bush announced the US would invade them…

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          At least they’re not livestreaming a genocide in 4k, if you think Iran is that evil I can’t imagine how evil you must think Israel and the USA is.

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            dude you really need to do research how evil Iran is. You’re so blissfully unaware. They are literally training Hamas and Hezbollah and Houthi’s — all recorded by independent journalists. Not to mention all of the attrocities like raping little iranian girls to “discipline them” before brutally murdering them just last year!

            If you’re trying to defend Iranian attrocities you really need to reflect on your mental state my dude. There are very few organizations that are objectively evil and Iranian leadership is definitely one of them.

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              Dude you really need to do research how evil Israel is. You’re so blissfully unaware. They literally created Hamas and work with ISIS - all recorded by independent and Israeli journalists alike. Not to mention all of the atrocities like raping little palestinian girls to death to “discipline them” before brutally murdering their families with fire!

              If you’re trying to defend Israeli atrocities you really need to reflect on your mental state my dude. There are very few organizations that are objectively evil and Israeli/American leadership is definitely one of them.

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                Dude you really need to do research how evil Israel is

                I did and I agree. Both are evil and if it were up to me both countries would be reformed in entirity.

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                    what? You’re the one who started with whataboutism:

                    At least they’re not livestreaming a genocide

                    I think you are genuinely misdirecting your anger at me.

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          They’ve had that government for a long time and were content to sign the JCPOA. You don’t have to like the Iranian government at all to recognise that it was not the party to break that deal

          Also, Pakistan is a Muslim country which has had nukes for decades without using them on anyone. Being Muslim does not make you want to nuke the rest of the world

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            I don’t see Muslim mentioned anywhere in their comment - they’ve said theocracy.

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              To quote from the modlog:

              Or because it’s a theocracy based on religion that literally says “God is telling us to kill everyone else”.

              Making claims about what religion says means you’re either talking about the religion the country and missed an “a” before the word “religion”, or you’re talking about every religion. I think it’s probably the former, but either way Islam falls under it

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          People are not able to chose between black and white anymore. “The enemy of my enemy is my friend” is what they chose. If Israel is bad, Iran must be good. Poor, poor Iran, just wanted to play a bit with nuclear bombs. The decade long calls of destruction of the Israeli state was just them saying “we want to be left alone”! The only thing that confuses them is Iran being one of the main providers of the Russian war. But soon they will side with Russia to be against “the imperialist west”. One side or the other, they don’t know any middle ground.

          Now let the downvotes come my authoritarian tankies

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            If Israel is bad, Iran must be good

            Yeah this is driving me nuts too. In particular how people start viewing Hamas as some sort of freedom fighters just because evil Israel is kicking their ass. It’s just shit people all around yet nothing can change cause it’s a team game not a truth or justice one.

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            fwiw, I agree with what you wrote here. My intention was not to imply “Iran good, Israel bad,” though judging by the upvotes it seems like I’ve tapped into that part of lemmy. My reductive quip still describes their motivation though.

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      Maybe taco shouldn’t have backed out of that deal last time he was president.