Waaay back in 2002 a mate of mine very drunkenly espoused his theory that WWIII was going to be caused by Israel because “that Netanyahu cunt is a fucking maniac”
Nailed it, Pete.
Israel’s actions in the past couple years have all seemed like sorta a desperate attempt to leverage the US Hegemony that’s protected them, before the US buckles.
Sorta like imagine a kid in Grade 1 who’s a total racist bully to his classmates. But the kid has an older brother in grade 6 who has no issue beating the shit outta any Grade 1 kid who fights back. When the older brother nears the transition to middle school – at which point the younger will lose his protection – the younger brother starts instigating like crazy, to try and establish dominance while still protected.
I mean, there’s also the whole “Netanyahu goes to prison if he doesn’t have a war going on” thing.
Honestly, I’m kinda surprised he waited this long.
hopefully it’s a swan song
DOGE, we found some waste
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not making the best case for “right to exist”
What case can you make for a religious supremacist ethnostate where they shoot children in the knees for sport?
Are you talking about Iran or Israel?
Israel
You should look up what your dear leaders are doing to their people in Iran, friendo.
what about x?
You’re right, Iran is a religious ethno state and you’re smart enough to recognize that as a bad thing, but when it comes to literal Jewish ISIS (Israel), you have to make an exception.
Don’t bring up other countries I didn’t defend, I’m simply asking you to make a case for Israel to be built as a Jewish supremacist state on land already lived on by a majority non Jewish native population, forcing the ethnostate to genocide them just to exist.
Make a case for Israel that isn’t “Europeans felt guilty for the Holocaust so they declared Jews are allowed to Holocaust anyone and gave them Palestine”
Why would I? I don’t support the Israeli government at all and it’s no question they’re guilty of a genocide.
Yeah & as always US is involved in it. Mind you I didn’t deny what Iran was doing, but just like Oct.7th, Iran’s current state didn’t happen in a vaccuum
Obviously Israel
whichever is left after the fallout clears.
They’re at the “right to do whatever the fuck we want” stage.
The knesset was about to be toppled the night before. He literally did this to stave off government collapse.
I’m glad I’m not the only one to notice this, all these atrocities are just so Bibi can stay in power and out of jail for corruption.
Yes but also western powers aren’t sanctioning or trying to stop him.
That is not a conclusion that can be reached from: Israel government almost devolves but is saved by a vote to bomb a foreign nation explicitly to piss off Trump and detail his negotiations with Iran?
Israeli society is sick and genocidal, “Bibi” (why are you using the fascist’s favorite pet name btw? Leave they for the fascists) is not the sole problem.
There can be no prosperity for humanity with such colonies around the world. Disarm Israel now.
& turn it into an actual safe haven for Jews. Because the far right christians will most definetly use Israel’s attrocities to justify anti-semitism (the real one)
Bibbi needs to continue Israel’s war so he stays out of prison. Dude is fucked if that ever happens. Good luck getting their neighbors to help shooting down shit that is inevitably coming their way.
I find it hilarious that all these countries call themselves “democracies” yet criminals have a loophole where they can just stay in power indefinitely as long as they continue committing more crimes.
Clown world.
Will he go to prison? Seems like the majority of Israelis approve of what he’s doing.
He is awaiting corruption and bribery charges that they have him dead to rights on.
Trump is a convicted felon, yet there was/is no political will to imprison him. The ruling class doesn’t give a shit if one of their members commits crimes or war crimes or even genocide. As long as they their ability to hoard extreme wealth is unaffected, they don’t care.
Its crazy how much stronger Israel’s position would be if they got rid of this old, incompetent babbling idiot. Like no one ever would look at this and say “yeah Iran should have nukes” but somehow here we are. Israel’s incapability to effectively govern itself just shows that most of their problems are of their own making.
Most of Israel’s senior politicians are just as bad.
And Iran should definitely have nukes; it’s the only way to protect it from the endless aggression of the the US and Israel (both of which have nukes)
These Zionist psychopaths commit genocide and bomb countries without any consequences. Fuck Israel.
Not content with the Gaza genocide?
They need a new distraction
They’re a puppet military for the US. Attacking the nuclear sites is strategically in response to the rising nuclear enrichment and failure to form an agreement.
We used to have an agreement, didn’t we? What happened to it?
Oh. Right.
Yup…and we essentially gave them nukes in the 70’s
EDIT: this is true. Not sure why downvotes
So much for diplomacy in the current era
I’m not any kind of expert, but I don’t think that was good.
The best part is it doesn’t take an expert to know not to attack people.
Consider that rock over there. See how it doesn’t attack anything so everything leaves it alone?
Until the stone mason shows up
There’s gold in that rock!
That doesn’t always work.
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Ditto
Well, that’s some “art of the deal” for sure. Peace in Middle East negotiated, bravo Vitkoff and Taco Don.
Iran has recently been reported as failing to meet its nuclear non-proliferation obligations and this is undoubtedly the reason Israel describes these strikes as pre-emptive.
I wonder why they would want nuclear weapons. It might be because people keep bombing them.
They started the program on the first government change after Bush announced the US would invade them…
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At least they’re not livestreaming a genocide in 4k, if you think Iran is that evil I can’t imagine how evil you must think Israel and the USA is.
dude you really need to do research how evil Iran is. You’re so blissfully unaware. They are literally training Hamas and Hezbollah and Houthi’s — all recorded by independent journalists. Not to mention all of the attrocities like raping little iranian girls to “discipline them” before brutally murdering them just last year!
If you’re trying to defend Iranian attrocities you really need to reflect on your mental state my dude. There are very few organizations that are objectively evil and Iranian leadership is definitely one of them.
Dude you really need to do research how evil Israel is. You’re so blissfully unaware. They literally created Hamas and work with ISIS - all recorded by independent and Israeli journalists alike. Not to mention all of the atrocities like raping little palestinian girls to death to “discipline them” before brutally murdering their families with fire!
If you’re trying to defend Israeli atrocities you really need to reflect on your mental state my dude. There are very few organizations that are objectively evil and Israeli/American leadership is definitely one of them.
Dude you really need to do research how evil Israel is
I did and I agree. Both are evil and if it were up to me both countries would be reformed in entirity.
But you think muslims are worse for not doing as much crimes against humanity?
They’ve had that government for a long time and were content to sign the JCPOA. You don’t have to like the Iranian government at all to recognise that it was not the party to break that deal
Also, Pakistan is a Muslim country which has had nukes for decades without using them on anyone. Being Muslim does not make you want to nuke the rest of the world
I don’t see Muslim mentioned anywhere in their comment - they’ve said theocracy.
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Or because it’s a theocracy based on religion that literally says “God is telling us to kill everyone else”.
Making claims about what religion says means you’re either talking about the religion the country and missed an “a” before the word “religion”, or you’re talking about every religion. I think it’s probably the former, but either way Islam falls under it
People are not able to chose between black and white anymore. “The enemy of my enemy is my friend” is what they chose. If Israel is bad, Iran must be good. Poor, poor Iran, just wanted to play a bit with nuclear bombs. The decade long calls of destruction of the Israeli state was just them saying “we want to be left alone”! The only thing that confuses them is Iran being one of the main providers of the Russian war. But soon they will side with Russia to be against “the imperialist west”. One side or the other, they don’t know any middle ground.
Now let the downvotes come my authoritarian tankies
If Israel is bad, Iran must be good
Yeah this is driving me nuts too. In particular how people start viewing Hamas as some sort of freedom fighters just because evil Israel is kicking their ass. It’s just shit people all around yet nothing can change cause it’s a team game not a truth or justice one.
facts
fwiw, I agree with what you wrote here. My intention was not to imply “Iran good, Israel bad,” though judging by the upvotes it seems like I’ve tapped into that part of lemmy. My reductive quip still describes their motivation though.
Maybe taco shouldn’t have backed out of that deal last time he was president.
Bibi will do anything to keep Israel in a state of emergency. Good for his extreme right buddies but foremost better for himself. As long there is some war going on, their cabinet stays in power and him out of jail for his fraud conviction. Him and his Zionist extremists are cancer for Israel and the region.
I feel like the narrative that Bibi is just doing this to stay out of jail ignores that the majority of Israeli’s approve of what he’s doing and would not seek a jail term for him, let alone the fact that the rest of the Israeli government would not prosecute. I’d be glad to be wrong, but it feels like blaming one bad apple just lets Zionism as a whole off the hook.
Yup, this is all self-preservation to him from the start. Watch him keep this going for a few more years, then come up with an excuse to “delay” the election.
“Quick, bomb Iran before Donny gets too friendly with them” or what?
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May I remind you that Israel also (allegedly) has nukes?
