An Israeli official told the Post: “We presented the American administration with evidence of Iran’s breakthrough toward a nuclear bomb. There was full and complete coordination with the Americans.”

Iran’s armed forces spokesperson accused Israel of carrying out attacks against Iran with US support.

This comes after Secretary of State Marco Rubio said in a statement, "Tonight, Israel took unilateral action against Iran. We are not involved in strikes against Iran and our top priority is protecting American forces in the region.

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    I don’t buy that, the executive is entirely in control of that relationship by law, even real, non-Trumpian law. He could veto anything congress wanted to put up against him if he had truly wanted to do anything. Hell, they said they were doing things that they never even tried to do, let alone going against Congress with tougher measures like cutting off arms shipments. They didn’t actually do the slightest amount of pushback except for announcing false “negotiations”.

    If that Congress was in thrall to Israel, the executive was bought and paid for.

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      I suggest you read up on what a veto proof majority is. Literally they could stop and override his veto on just about anything regarding israel. And best of all it doesn’t care if you buy it or not. It simply exists. All we can do is acknowledge it and take it into account.

      The only reason Trump is able to do any of the things he’s currently doing. Is because he has the support of far too much of the Judiciary and the majority of the legislature.

      Deny all you like. While I sympathize with a lot of you, and think you had good intentions. You were played like fools and that is just a simple fact. Something that we should remember and try to do better about in the future. And the first step on that path is to acknowledge you are manipulated.

      We have our work cut out for us. We have a whole legislature and Judiciary to replace before replacing the president means anything.

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        Just to be clear, I am not a Trump voter, I’m a third party watching the carnage from the outside.

        Yes, they could have gotten a supermajority together and overrode the veto, but that would have been highly unlikely, given how often that’s ever occurred. And by not buying it, I’m saying that they could have done what they said they did and more, but simply didn’t regardless of what might have happened in Congress. They didn’t even do the small amount they said they were doing that didn’t get called out by any large amount of representatives.

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          It’s occurred several times in my life time. And if any issue would have seen another. It would be Israel. Take it from someone who has lived here 50 years and isn’t a third party.

          I’m not here to defend biden. He absolutely could and should have done more. I’m just here to call out the people attacking the Democrats for things that were largely out of their control in that presidential election. Only succeeding at helping to get the actual fascist into office. Not that Democrats didn’t contribute to that plenty on their own as well.

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          Just to be clear, I am not a Trump voter, I’m a third party watching the carnage from the outside.

          Well feel free to help whenever then

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            When you get your underground railroad rolling to get the handmaids out, I’ll be here. Pretty hard to get excited about helping when your own countrymen can’t be arsed to do anything except slacktivise on Farcebook.

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          I live in a red state. I’ll vote for anyone that stands a chance of keeping a Republican out of office. That’s just basic harm reduction. And yes that would theoretically include even a CIA democrat. But the joke’s on you. Republicans largely run unopposed here.

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              Unopposed. There are no thirds. I will take one less Republican in office over virtue signaling any day anyhow.

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                  I would get more accomplished if I went to our fascist Governor’s residence and took a shit on his doorstep.

                  That’s literally privileged blue state leftist talk. Is writing in Joseph Dejacque going to return the rights my SO, my mother, my sister, and my nieces all lost? Is writing someone in going to flip the state legislature to actually get it to implement the ballot initiatives citizens here pass? Is it anything but the definition of empty virtue signaling? It’s like starving, seeing a half eaten hamburger in the trash. Going, I could eat it to relieve my hunger. But no, I will let the fresh imaginary hotdog sustain me.

                  Don’t get me wrong, under the right circumstances write-ins can get someone like Mukowski elected. But that’s the exception not the rule, and requires someone write-in worthy running to boot. As an anarchist I’d like to see nearly all of them run from office however. Till then I’ll fight the fascists with any effective means at hand. Though it must be nice to be able to be choosy. Unfortunately it rarely coincides with self awareness.

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      They didn’t actually do the slightest amount of pushback

      You mean break the law? Yeah why didn’t he do that. Everyone does it.