systemd cat and GNU cat hugging a Linux cat.

  • RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.cafe
    English
    7·
    1 hour ago

    ReactOS.

    I have no moral or philosophical objections to the design of Windows NT, just the company that makes it and the enshittification. If ReactOS ever becomes stable enough to be daily used I would use it. For now I use LinuxMint and Steam OS at home.

  • wolf@lemmy.zipEnglish
    9·
    3 hours ago

    Since you asked for OS and not Linux: OpenBSD and FreeBSD are beautiful systems w/o systemd. I would switch in a heartbeat if I wouldn’t need Linux for work reasons.

    • Opisek@lemmy.world
      21·
      3 hours ago

      This feels like an “I would switch to Linux if I didn’t need Windows for work” comment from another universe.

      • wolf@lemmy.zipEnglish
        5·
        2 hours ago

        Fair point. :-)

        At the end of the day, the OS has to run the software/applications one needs to get shit done… if it is macOS or Windows, that’s okay.

        In my defense, I ran NetBSD for several years a long time back, and it was one of the best OS experiences I ever had. I am just old/pragmatic/flexible enough, to choose setups with less friction, if possible. ;-)

        Still, I think it is a shame that Linux mostly took over the UNIX world and the BDS are left for hardcore nerds/embedding/game consoles and Solaris and co are not viable options anymore. Portable software and its stability benefited a lot from bugs detected on other platforms (OpenBSD was always a forerunner here).

        • wolf@lemmy.zipEnglish
          4·
          2 hours ago

          Not sure what you want to express. I actually used BSD a long time back, and the quality/documentation/coherence/beauty of the system are/were just on another level… Running Debian for nearly a decade now, because of compatibility (with hardware and software I need)… Linux improved a lot in the last nearly 3 decades and I am happy it exists, still I would be more happy if the BSDs would have stayed at least on an equal footing.

          • Shin@lemmy.worldEnglish
            3·
            2 hours ago

            I think the comment speaks for itself. There wasn’t anything deep behind it. It literally just mean “Linux users look at BSD users how Windows users look at Linux.” Bewildered, mystified maybe? It’s just lower on the “food chain”, and they are surprised to see people using it because it’s missing “X” feature they can’t live without, for many people that being gaming. I’m in the same camp.

            It was not a comment on the quality of the software, as I have never used it. I would love to tinker with it one day to see the differences, but I can’t see myself ever switching to it, even if I admire/envy some of the better parts compared to Linux.

            • wolf@lemmy.zipEnglish
              3·
              1 hour ago

              Thanks for clarification!

              … and I think you are point on, by now, the ship has sailed. I could use FreeBSD/OpenBSD on servers, but I’d rather run Debian everywhere. On desktops and for day to day usage, the BSDs are no viable options anymore, they simply lack support for common hardware (Wifi etc.) alone and the BSDs will realistically never be able to catch up the chasm anymore.

    • lepinkainen@lemmy.world
      3·
      29 minutes ago

      It tries to do everything.

      Think of a thing you want to do in Linux and there is a systemd plugin for it. It’s not the unix way

    • HereIAm@lemmy.world
      9·
      2 hours ago

      All I hear about it is that it doesn’t follow the Unix philosophy of a program should do one thing and do it well. And while it does seem quite large and do a lot of things, out of all the times I have broken my system, systemd has never been to blame.

    • HereIAm@lemmy.world
      31·
      2 hours ago

      All I hear about it is that it doesn’t follow the Unix philosophy of a program should do one thing and do it well. And while it does seem quite large and do a lot of things, out of all the times I have broken my system, systemd has never been to blame.

  • Rose@slrpnk.net
    151·
    4 hours ago

    “systemd is the worst implementation of init, except all those other inits that have been tried from time to time” -Churchill, if he had been a nerd

  • drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    4·
    2 hours ago

    Neither Haiku or 9front use systemd, and they’re both very interesting from a technical and design perspective (though not for their init systems).

    If it has to be a Linux distribution I would say Damn Small Linux (DSL), because its really impressive just how few resources it requires. You can run x windows and even browse the web (using Dillo) on a system that’s small enough to fit in the L3 cache of some modern CPUs.

    I don’t daily drive any of these though, so they might not count as my “favorite”.

  • Haarukkateroitin@sopuli.xyz
    3·
    4 hours ago

    I have to write startup scripts time-to-time and I have to say that I don’t miss at all the old init-system.

    Not that systemd don’t have flaws, but in old init-system even simplest daemon took too many lines. Not to mention hacky comment definitions.

  • snd (he/him)@discuss.tchncs.de
    8·
    5 hours ago

    I have to say as someone who uses NixOS I love systemd, because it makes a lot of things very easy. For example hardening services ( systemd-analyze security) or replacing cron (system timer).