Activists have shifted to rapid responses instead of mass demonstrations, and social media is filled with videos of arrests on city streets and outside Home Depots.
We do, that’s a fact, but a movement’s success shouldn’t be judged by whether or not it had a 100% closing rate.
My wife and I have been working since the 90’s. The amount of inappropriate shit I have seen prior to #metoo would fill volumes, and I worked in what was considered a more progressive industry. Because of #metoo and similar corporate policies regarding behaviour have dramatically changed and it has been shown that even the executive floor can be affected. Sure, most CEO’s will get a lot of leeway where a manager would not, but I can guarantee you that a CIO is going to think really hard before walking into the office of a woman in her twenties, at two in the morning during an all night downtime, close the door, and proceed to “chat her up”. He would also think twice before telling a room full of senior managers, of which she was the only female, that he had been having dreams about her. Both of these things, and a lot more, happened to my wife. Years after she walked out of that job, many of her ex-coworkers, including some of the managers in that meeting, expressed surprise that she did not sue. The truth is that she didn’t feel that she had the power to do so. The #metoo movement changed many of the aspects of her scenarios. Although the male managers twenty years ago would have spoken up if asked to testify in a lawsuit, many of them would have spoken out at the moment today…unprompted. Women today know that inappropriate situations do not have to be tolerated and that male coworkers can be willing allies.
No it isn’t perfect. Far from it. But it is light years away from where we started.
fair enough. i hate that women have had to and still have to go through this shit. even here, now, we have people (men) getting angry and defensive about any criticism of men. god fucking forbid a woman express her own anger. you can observe this in some of my recent comments that were massivelly downvoted. this comment will be downvoted for it too.
but you’re right-- steps forward, even if they’re baby steps, are steps forward nonetheless.
This is what my wife tells me and one of the ways she reminds herself of the progress made. She began working in the late 1990’s and she’s never worn a skirt to work. I know it sounds like a dumb thing to focus on, but just a few years earlier many firms required women to wear skirts in the office. It didn’t matter how you felt about it or if you had good reasons to not (like scars). If you wanted the job you had to wear a skirt.
To me, skirts to pants is a baby step. The changes made every since #metoo I’d consider to be a seismic shift, which is why many weak men have their knickers in a twist. Still…we have a long way to go before we can claim that we have an equal and safe work environment for all.
i’m glad that metoo did something. but we literally have a rapist for potus
We do, that’s a fact, but a movement’s success shouldn’t be judged by whether or not it had a 100% closing rate.
My wife and I have been working since the 90’s. The amount of inappropriate shit I have seen prior to #metoo would fill volumes, and I worked in what was considered a more progressive industry. Because of #metoo and similar corporate policies regarding behaviour have dramatically changed and it has been shown that even the executive floor can be affected. Sure, most CEO’s will get a lot of leeway where a manager would not, but I can guarantee you that a CIO is going to think really hard before walking into the office of a woman in her twenties, at two in the morning during an all night downtime, close the door, and proceed to “chat her up”. He would also think twice before telling a room full of senior managers, of which she was the only female, that he had been having dreams about her. Both of these things, and a lot more, happened to my wife. Years after she walked out of that job, many of her ex-coworkers, including some of the managers in that meeting, expressed surprise that she did not sue. The truth is that she didn’t feel that she had the power to do so. The #metoo movement changed many of the aspects of her scenarios. Although the male managers twenty years ago would have spoken up if asked to testify in a lawsuit, many of them would have spoken out at the moment today…unprompted. Women today know that inappropriate situations do not have to be tolerated and that male coworkers can be willing allies.
No it isn’t perfect. Far from it. But it is light years away from where we started.
fair enough. i hate that women have had to and still have to go through this shit. even here, now, we have people (men) getting angry and defensive about any criticism of men. god fucking forbid a woman express her own anger. you can observe this in some of my recent comments that were massivelly downvoted. this comment will be downvoted for it too.
but you’re right-- steps forward, even if they’re baby steps, are steps forward nonetheless.
i’m just so tired
This is what my wife tells me and one of the ways she reminds herself of the progress made. She began working in the late 1990’s and she’s never worn a skirt to work. I know it sounds like a dumb thing to focus on, but just a few years earlier many firms required women to wear skirts in the office. It didn’t matter how you felt about it or if you had good reasons to not (like scars). If you wanted the job you had to wear a skirt.
To me, skirts to pants is a baby step. The changes made every since #metoo I’d consider to be a seismic shift, which is why many weak men have their knickers in a twist. Still…we have a long way to go before we can claim that we have an equal and safe work environment for all.