• mwguy@infosec.pub
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    2 months ago

    She should absolutely run. I don’t know if she should win the nomination, but running brings a voice to the wing of the party she represents.

    Primaries are about coalition building. And to have your ideas represented by the eventual candidate you need a champion to promote them in the process.

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      2 months ago

      I don’t know if she should win the nomination,

      Her winning the nomination would be Schumer and Pelosi’s worst nightmare. They would 100 percent rather lose to Trump than let that happen.

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        2 months ago

        they’d actively campaign for mango mussolini’s third term before they let AOC win the nomination. fucking ghouls.

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      2 months ago

      But, from the last election, we know some minorities will never vote for a woman. This is a big gamble.

      I voted for Harris. I thought she was going to win until I saw all those minorities vote against her just because of her gender.

      This world is not ready.

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        3 days ago

        She also ran an incredibly poor campaign (Not completely her fault). Assuming she would have a run a Biden free open (which I’m not convinced of given how poorly she did in 2020), she would have done so by being good at campaigning and testing which messages swayed the electorate. Every winning canadite gets it.

        Additionally the people you beat, give you a feel for the parts of the party that you need to bring into the coalition which you can satisfy as you build out your proposed VP and Cabinet. Think of how Obama brought in Clinton as Sec of State, Trump brought in Pence as VP to satisfy the religious right, how Biden brought in Harris etc… Harris didn’t have any of that feedback and picked a pretty questionable VP as a result.

        At the end of the day she lost by 1.5% of the popular vote. And I got to imagine that the whole process lost her significantly more than that.

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          3 days ago

          To be fair, she is a woman.

          There are many men and women will never vote for a woman no matter what. Many Latino and black men will not vote for a woman, especiially she is brown . A lot of white men won’t vote for a brown woman

          We are sexist. The US is not ready. We are not a land of the free.

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            16 hours ago

            1.5% was her popular vote margin. Hardly some blowout. Maybe instead of scapegoating brown people we look at the legitimate ways in which her campaign should have been better but couldn’t be because of corruption in the DNC. That corruption is correctable.

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        2 months ago

        We absolutely don’t know anything of the sort. Centrist assholes just cling to that excuse to avoid acknowledging that focusing on appealing to conservatives and pledging to maintain the status quo is a failure.