• IninewCrow@lemmy.ca
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    20 hours ago

    Millionaires with a few million dollars aren’t the problem

    The biggest problems are the handful of billionaires and the billionaires that are not Canadian but have a strangle hold on companies or corporations that affect Canada.

    If the government could just tax the ever loving shit out of billionaires, they’d remove the single root cause of a lot of problems in the country and actually allow some sort of competition in all industries. This would allow the economy to spread the wealth to more Canadians than to a bunch of non-aligned billionaires who could care less what country they are attached to because their wealth is so great, they are basically their own country at this point.

    Millionaires aren’t the problem … Billionaires are

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      19 hours ago

      They’re part of the problem, but you can become a millionaire ethically, not a billionaire.

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        19 hours ago

        Being a millionaire these days is pretty normal. Need a lot more than that to retire if you don’t have a pension plan.

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      That’s an excellent point.

      We need to shift the conversation from government taxing its citizens to shielding them from international economic forces.

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      20 hours ago

      Anyone with either millions or billions is the problem because no single person needs either.

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          15 hours ago

          In the current situation yes. The point is we need to fix it so one doesn’t need excessive capital to simply retire, and the rich begging to be taxed more can do a lot on their own to help without the Government.

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          19 hours ago

          I feel like a lot of people retire with much much less than “millions”. Might not be a super comfortable retirement but, def doable.

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            My mom ‘retired’ with ‘much much less than “millions”’. She stopped working at 75.

            She lives in a small $2/sqft/mo rental with dodgy power, asbestos in the walls, windows stuck shut, people staggering past the fuse box all night, miner bees in the walls, and shit Internet. It’s a coastal town with no access by roads - just ferries - and minimal services. It’s a half-day to get there, really, or an hour’s flight.

            you may need to experience your version of ‘doable’ before you commit to it.

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            Being a homeowner gets you there in a lot of places, it doesn’t matter because you still need a home so you can’t live off it

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        19 hours ago

        I know plenty of millionaires … people who own property, vehicles and wealth that all amount to one or two million … and they are still just getting by. They aren’t that terribly wealthy - they don’t live with any more luxury than most people, they just have more things.

        Billionaires on the other hand are something else … it’s like comparing someone with a weight problem and calling millionaires slightly pudgy and billionaires are grossly overweight behemoths that can affect the structure of your house.

        Here’s a visual comparison using grains of rice of what a millionaire and billionaire and the wealth of someone like Jeff Bezos is

        Using Rice to Show How Rich Jeff Bezos Is | NowThis

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          16 hours ago

          I understand the extreme difference between millions and billions. My point is neither a millionaire nor a billionaire needs it.

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            Sure, but we don’t “need” anything above our basic survival cost, let’s go live on the Savannah and hunt our food again.

            For me the problem are those who hoard wealth, who don’t earn a salary but sit and live off their massive pile of accumulated wealth. We need a wealth tax now.

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              Sure, but we don’t “need” anything above our basic survival cost, let’s go live on the Savannah and hunt our food again.

              Straw man detected.

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        You need to be a millionaire these days if you want to actually retire. If it only took a million, would have retired a while ago.