From age and ID restrictions on the Internet, to charging rappers with “terrorism,” the U.K. is demolishing the most basic civil liberties. If we let them, U.S. leaders may be close behind.

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    I think the US will be fine as long as we don’t repeatedly elect some kind of cabal of pedophile authoritarians.

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    “and america could be next!” they literally have domestic concentration camps in america there is no freedom there

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      But how nice of the headline to imply such things don’t exist while pretending to be shocked about other things

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      Our speech has been controlled here since media’s inception. We just live in the world of manufactured perception that because we can argue on the internet or have marches that somehow speech and propaganda isn’t a tightly-controlled system.

      You don’t NEED to jail critics to have control over your country’s speech, you just need to control the narratives via news outlets, reddit posts, newspapers, facebook “friends” and popular television fiction shows.

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    The US is already well down the path with masked men kidnapping people on the street, holding them without any contact, defunding all sorts of media and billionaires suppressing all sorts off stuff in their media outlets.

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    That was lost a while ago, but it’s nice more people are noticing that it’s getting worse.

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    Britain has never had free speech in the same way as the US, nor even of the press. Only in the last few decades, they’ve only had what’s required by the ECHR.

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      Well US free speech is telling lies and misleading millions of people on broadcast television.

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        I’d argue that’s more of a problem with media consolidation and not having some form of truth requirement in broadcast media. When only a handful of organizations own the majority of media outlets and aren’t held to account for their content, this is what we end up with and why we can’t have nice things.

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      They literally have a Press Censorship system where they will send something called “D-Notices” to newspapers to shut them up.

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    Hopefully this doesn’t devolve into another USA vs UK shit flinging contest. Authoritarianism is on the rise everywhere, Trump and Starmer are both utilising state power to crack down on dissent and opposition. Those of us who are opposed to this shit are on the same side.

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      100%.

      Doesn’t matter the country.

      Do you work for a living?

      Do you want to live without fear of governments and corporations breathing down your neck waiting to make an example of you or profit from you?

      …Then we should be on the same side. Simple as.

      Good-natured jabs aside, of course. ;) Love ya, Brits. <3

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    Remember VPNs definitely don’t help here, definitely don’t try to skirt any protections using a VPN, definitely remember to have your ID with you at the ready for any website to show to.

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      If you could project into the future, you might see that VPNs are a dwindling non-solution to the problem. As this unsettling trend makes waves across all jurisdictions in the world, every VPN’s IP will be subject to these new controls.* Eventually normies might need to understand technologies like Tor or I2P. Only problem is, if things get really bad they might ban the use of both outright. I’m not sure if I2P can be detected just as Tor, but I do know Tor users can be detected easily. Which is why if you’re in a “censorship” country you need to use some sort of special subset of entry guards. I2P might be better because every node in the network is like a router, none are specifically entry, middle, or exit nodes. Only thing I could think of, maybe some form of deep packet inspection? If everybody runs an I2P router, then simply making requests to other nodes is not enough to determine it’s an i2p communication?* It’s just distributed computing, the way the internet was intended!

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        Any other useful info like this? Tryna snag as much of this stuff as possible (taking screenshots and offline copies of the pages) in the event it becomes unavailable and my existing methods fail on me.

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          You can simply go to the official tor or i2p pages and read more about details, then do follow up research from there. With i2p there’s actually a few parallel implementations actively being developed. Original is in Java, there’s a C++ one, and then another one I can’t remember. Very new implementations are being made in Rust as well

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          Thanks for volunteering to help the network in good faith! I think it is much easier for normal people to get an i2p router up and running and help the entire network, instead of setting up a tor node. And with the use of inbound/outbound unidirectional tunnels (which you can set up to 5 nodes each), you could theoretically have a 10 node round trip of intermediate tunnels between you and a server, as opposed to tor which uses a bidirectional tunnel.

          Some gracious users set up what is known as an “outbound proxy”, which acts like tor exit node to the clearnet. Personally I would never host one of these, as I am hesitant of having anonymous entities make clearnet requests and being held liable. But as an i2p router in somebody else’s tunnels, you can just imagine yourself as a road on a map that other roads connect to. The road isn’t responsible for what people are carrying on it, or what their destination might be. That would be an unreasonable expectation to place on any road. In fact, the router doesn’t have any idea of what the exact destination is, even if it’s the last node in the tunnel - simply because during the encryption/decryption process it only knows of the next address to hit!

          For example, say an i2p router hosts a git server. It could be the destination for packets, where clients are using it for version control, or it could act as a node in somebody’s tunnels to connect with other servers/clients. From the network view, I do not believe you can tell, and that is pretty neat.

          In the effort of being transparent and educating you, I do believe an outstanding problem is stream isolation. You should be able to do “soft resets” that reset your identity, although I forget the exact technical i2p term for this. This concern is for clients, not just leaving a router up. So if you intend on using that router to access the network yourself, it would be a good idea to do that soft or hard reset occasionally depending on your concerns. You can do it as often or never at all.

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      It’s a good thing there are no scammers that could try stealing IDs pretending to verify you 😌

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    Pretty much every company that matters decided to go full 1984 censorship and surveillance all at the same time. And the governments are more than happy to play along. UK, US, etc. Pretty much all of “the west”

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    I already can’t say what I really think about politicians and CEOs without getting banned from comments all over the place, so didn’t preach to me about censorship. I’m already chest deep in this shit.

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        I don’t know if you just don’t pay attention or if you haven’t been on world much like this community is.

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            .World admins have pretty strict policies against advocating for violence of any form is what I believe they are referencing.

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            So just your first time on world then okay I got you. Not familiar with the mod team around here. Got it

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              Instead of being condescending you could give examples for those of us who actually aren’t familiar with the .world mod team. But that’s just not who you are. Got it.

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    Lol its been decades since the UK had free speech. I haven’t forgotten the Nazis pug.

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      I lived for over a decade in Britain until about 5 years ago and by the time I left I truly believed the UK was the most likely country in Europe to turn Fascist within a decade.

      So far, they’re well on schedule and there isn’t a month without some news about it further confirming how wise my decision to leave after the Brexit vote was.

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    How many whistleblowers and reporters did Bush and Obama charge with the Espionage Act?

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      i feel like that’s a story much much older than the queen.

      England used to be the first “liberal” place in the world, and it invented capitalism. Both spread to the US after 1800, and then UK had fulfilled its role in world history and became irrelevant. US is literally UK offspring.